SONDEK BASHING

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LP 12 bashing??

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Hi People its my first post over here.
The violet is becaue of the double album i am playing on my old LP12 By the National.
Its a very good album as is my LP12.
I would just let that guy have his forum and not look on it.
The more hits he gets on it the more he will keep talking shite.
Stu[color=violet][/color]Looks like the colour didnt work :oops:
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Hi munch and welcome here!

I agree with you regarding A.S.

Funny the colour didn't work! What you write in between those paragraphs (color= and /color) should be shown with the specified colour, but I've noticed that very rarely, the forum doesn't seem to recognise what's inside the brackets [] as a command.
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lejonklou wrote:Funny the colour didn't work! What you write in between those paragraphs (color= and /color) should be shown with the specified colour, but I've noticed that very rarely, the forum doesn't seem to recognise what's inside the brackets [] as a command.
There have been a few times when I couldn't get commands to work properly inside the brackets. Although I may have been doing something wrong... :wink:
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Post by lindsayt »

Has anyone on this forum compared an LP12 against a Nantais modified Lenco?

If they have, would they like to share their thoughts on the relative merits of each turntable?

Is it possible that such a Lenco could actually be a couple of classes better than an LP12? In which case, Mr Salvatore's evaluation of the LP12 would be about right. After all, class C Lower, by his grading is still pretty good.

Or has he got it totally wrong?

Would an LP12 sound better than any idler drive turntable?
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Hi lindsayt and welcome to the forum!

While I have not heard that specific turntable, I have worked in retail for five years and for a HiFi magazine for longer. I have probably heard a hundred different turntables, including a few Lenco's. I don't mean to brag about that, but what I'm saying is that the way I judge the performance of musical reproduction (Tune Method), nothing has come even close to an LP12.

If anything actually did, it would spread like wildfire among Tune Method-enthusiasts and you'd read all about it here.
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I've owned my LP12 for 27 years and for me, there's no doubt that it's a good turntable.

However, using the Tune Method I don't think it's the best sounding turntable in my house.

And this was my main reason for making my post, because there might be better sounding turntables than the LP12.

And if there is, this might to some extent vindicate Mr Salvatores opinions.

But then it's no good me coming on here and stating my thoughts without some means of testing whether what I say has any merit or not. And so I'm willing to bring my turntables to any other forum members who live in England (preferably near Leeds - Manchester) to get a 2nd opinion.
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If you make a comparison with other forum members, I'd be really interested to read about your conclusions.

And if anything plays a tune better than an LP12, it would be great. Especially if it's less expensive!
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Post by Charlie1 »

lindsayt wrote:I've owned my LP12 for 27 years and for me, there's no doubt that it's a good turntable.

However, using the Tune Method I don't think it's the best sounding turntable in my house.

And this was my main reason for making my post, because there might be better sounding turntables than the LP12.

And if there is, this might to some extent vindicate Mr Salvatores opinions.

But then it's no good me coming on here and stating my thoughts without some means of testing whether what I say has any merit or not. And so I'm willing to bring my turntables to any other forum members who live in England (preferably near Leeds - Manchester) to get a 2nd opinion.
I suspect Peter Swain at Cymbiosis in Leicester would be interested and isn't too far for you. Last time I was there, he was still looking for another deck besides LP12, but similar to Fredrik's comment, could not find anything close in terms of musicality despite hearing a great many decks. He used to travel overseas just to hear them so was very serious about it. He's also a Naim dealer and I think felt it was important to be able to offer customers a choice. The good thing with Peter is that you know his deck will be setup perfectly, so it's a fair comparison. If you go to someone's house then they might have set it up themselves and made a bodge of it or perhaps their dealer isn't very good. Lots of people who complain about the LP12 haven't heard one well setup from what I can tell (and others have commented.)
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Post by Tony Tune-age »

The turntable has always been my favorite type of audio source, even during the compact disc era. My interest began during junior high school when my sister gave me a small turntable stereo system. Although it certainly was junk compared to turntables of today, it was lots of fun and my interest continued to grow.

Since that time, I've owned a variety of turntables from the United States, Japan, Holland, Germany and a few United Kingdom countries. I've owned a variety of tonearms, cartridges and power supplies for many of these turntables. While working at a high-end audio shop during my college years, I had access to an even wider selection of turntables, etc. However, I have not heard all the turntables available on the market, nor have I heard all the combination of turntables, cartridges and power supplies on the market either.

Ultimately, there were many combinations which I found very enjoyable and some certainly performed better than others. But once I began comparing the Linn Sondek to other brands, my learning curve grew by leaps and bounds.

I'm not a name dropper by nature, and I don't bash any product that is of legitimate effort. But considering the Sondek has several possible configurations, it can compete on a variety of levels with other brands and at many price points as well.

The recent Sondek upgrades have been major in my opinion, and I have no regrets migrating over to the Linn Sondek LP12 turntable. And as such I appreciate the efforts Linn has made over the years to consistantly improve its' performance. In my mind, it is a top notch class A performer, especially with the current line of upgrades.

As long as people are happy with their particular turntable regardless of brand or cost, that's all that really matters (in my opinion)... 8)
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