Playground for practical listening exercises
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haha :)
I agree. Surprised that the small slabs make any difference at all tbh.
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I agree. Surprised that the small slabs make any difference at all tbh.
Thanks again everyone. You are the A team!
Last edited by Charlie1 on 2021-06-17 20:03, edited 1 time in total.
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I am soo sorry I think that was even worse than with feets on the slap.
Probably I need to slap my slade slabs away too.
Probably I need to slap my slade slabs away too.
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Normal sounds better to me, on both "Catch" and "Reluctant London Visit."Charlie1 wrote: ↑2021-06-17 09:56 What's the Catch?
Normal: https://www.dropbox.com/s/botjlka9hsnby ... 9.mp4?dl=0
Slab: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2q9lqv2fporl ... 7.mp4?dl=0
Reluctant London Visit
Normal: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l82yocsk35utw ... 0.mp4?dl=0
Slab: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tijangclqxv6c ... 2.mp4?dl=0
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Clips of before and after please! :-)
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Clips will come but more likely tomo. Yesterday I had a bad start and a better end.
For my self made new rack I tried washers inbetween horizontal levels and the columns that supported them we had Clips for that some days before - I thought maybe I didnt let the wood settle enough. So in ignorance all the 3 levels got the washers (for the chance of 3 times better or 3 times worst) after sitting down and switching through some music it was soo bad that I removed the washers only on the source level and only doing so the music came back ... that means there is chance for more improvement if the other levels get their washers removed.
For my self made new rack I tried washers inbetween horizontal levels and the columns that supported them we had Clips for that some days before - I thought maybe I didnt let the wood settle enough. So in ignorance all the 3 levels got the washers (for the chance of 3 times better or 3 times worst) after sitting down and switching through some music it was soo bad that I removed the washers only on the source level and only doing so the music came back ... that means there is chance for more improvement if the other levels get their washers removed.
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I enjoyed T and prefer it.
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Both sound good to me.kallesprätt wrote: ↑2021-06-18 11:45 T vs H, better or worse?
T:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6b2w0wuoulrl ... 6.mov?dl=0
H:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6td2c33wdnny ... 9.mov?dl=0
Although T is more direct and perhaps more pitch accurate, I feel there's a depth and focus on the finer details in H that draws me into the music more.
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They seem really close to me but I preferred T which seemed to better hold everything together to my mind.
Sounding good!
Sounding good!
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+1, I caтch myself ... foot taping, most probably better PRaT.
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I'm with Fredrik on this. I find T a bit more propulsive but to me there is more emotion in the voice on H and I feel the music flows better on it as well.lejonklou wrote: ↑2021-06-18 15:01Both sound good to me.kallesprätt wrote: ↑2021-06-18 11:45 T vs H, better or worse?
T:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6b2w0wuoulrl ... 6.mov?dl=0
H:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6td2c33wdnny ... 9.mov?dl=0
Although T is more direct and perhaps more pitch accurate, I feel there's a depth and focus on the finer details in H that draws me into the music more.
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I had more difficulty following the tune on (T), so (H) for me too.
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I instinctively wanted to listen longer to H, so I guess I prefer that one. They are very close though.
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Hm, interesting one, and it looks like we’re split on this one.
I’m going for T, because I found it the most tuneful and slightly more rhythmical, so should provide the most enjoyment over time and with a wider variety of music.
I’m going for T, because I found it the most tuneful and slightly more rhythmical, so should provide the most enjoyment over time and with a wider variety of music.
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Testing out Rack options - what is more musical?
Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/99i5t484khnbx ... 4.mov?dl=0
Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/99i5t484khnbx ... 4.mov?dl=0
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Same here...(+1)ThomasOK wrote: ↑2021-06-18 17:22I'm with Fredrik on this. I find T a bit more propulsive but to me there is more emotion in the voice on H and I feel the music flows better on it as well.lejonklou wrote: ↑2021-06-18 15:01Both sound good to me.kallesprätt wrote: ↑2021-06-18 11:45 T vs H, better or worse?
T:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6b2w0wuoulrl ... 6.mov?dl=0
H:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6td2c33wdnny ... 9.mov?dl=0
Although T is more direct and perhaps more pitch accurate, I feel there's a depth and focus on the finer details in H that draws me into the music more.
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I'm leaning towards the first clip, but will listen again later.Defender wrote: ↑2021-06-19 15:13 Testing out Rack options - what is more musical?
Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/99i5t484khnbx ... 4.mov?dl=0
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I didn't get a lot of sleep last night so I'm feeling a little hazy. Now I'm at work on Saturday, the last day of my work week. It is dark and raining outside and no customers have so far graced us with their presence. (Of course we've only been open an hour but it feels a lot longer - "What do you mean it is nowhere near 6PM yet!") That doesn't help the hazy feeling.Defender wrote: ↑2021-06-19 15:13 Testing out Rack options - what is more musical?
Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/99i5t484khnbx ... 4.mov?dl=0
So I'm catching up on the forums and here are a couple new clips. I play clip 1 and immediately think "Hey, I love this song." I listen to it and start drifting away into the song and the rain and realize about 50 seconds in "Wait, I'm supposed to be comparing clips." (I don't usually listen in that long when I'm comparing them.) So I switch to clip 2. "Hmmm, I'm no longer drifting into the rain and the song. Let's go back to clip 1." That's better, back flowing with the music I listen to the end of the clip. Then I do a couple more quick A/Bs and then listen to clip 1 all the way to the end again and I'm disappointed when it unceremoniously stops without the rest of the track.
I guess I'll have to find it on YouTube.
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Freshly back from YouTube with a little more knowledge than when I went there. The song was actually written and performed first by Fred Neil before it was made a hit by Harry Nilsson on the Midnight Cowboy soundtrack. Here's the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBAOjKBLpqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBAOjKBLpqo
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Like ThomasOK with clip 1 I want to hear more! :-)Defender wrote: ↑2021-06-19 15:13 Testing out Rack options - what is more musical?
Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/99i5t484khnbx ... 4.mov?dl=0
It’s that live feeling…………….
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Hi Tom yes I remember I did the same long time ago stopping the song at a non harmonious rest - sorry.
Its nice you confirm my findings. The difference is this: Washers between the column and the board - washers make it unmusical most clear when I took the washers out from the level with the Akurate DS so I assumed it would have the same effect for the levels with the Sagatun Monos.
Next test will be taking out the slade slab.
Its nice you confirm my findings. The difference is this: Washers between the column and the board - washers make it unmusical most clear when I took the washers out from the level with the Akurate DS so I assumed it would have the same effect for the levels with the Sagatun Monos.
Next test will be taking out the slade slab.
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1 is easier for me to make sense too. I quite like 2 as well though. It makes 1 sound a bit synthetic to my ears.Defender wrote: ↑2021-06-19 15:13 Testing out Rack options - what is more musical?
Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/99i5t484khnbx ... 4.mov?dl=0
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Clip 1 stays the same
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 3 is now without slab
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c4bzrw92s3aw ... 2.mov?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 3 is now without slab
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c4bzrw92s3aw ... 2.mov?dl=0
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Lovely Defender. Keep that slab away from the system. Now we can hear the “old” recording. Organic and emotional.Defender wrote: ↑2021-06-19 19:29 Clip 1 stays the same
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwmuqz7x4eufi ... 9.mov?dl=0
Clip 3 is now without slab
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0c4bzrw92s3aw ... 2.mov?dl=0
It’s that live feeling…………….
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Slab crushes the music. Without, it's like a weight off...