Couldn’t agree moreFairPlayMotty wrote:Having just listened to two clips of a favourite track my conclusion is I would never buy HiFi based on a smartphone recording!
We can Pinpoint the differences between 2 clips, that’s all.
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Couldn’t agree moreFairPlayMotty wrote:Having just listened to two clips of a favourite track my conclusion is I would never buy HiFi based on a smartphone recording!
Glad you agree Sopper and thanks for your efforts! Got Gaucho playing now.Sopper wrote:Couldn’t agree moreFairPlayMotty wrote:Having just listened to two clips of a favourite track my conclusion is I would never buy HiFi based on a smartphone recording!
We can Pinpoint the differences between 2 clips, that’s all.
I don't think any of us would. Certainly for me it is not about whether a smartphone recording can sound as musical as a track in your room (of a musical system, of course) but whether it allows you to hear important musical differences between two devices, settings, etc. This can definitely help in deciding what to investigate.FairPlayMotty wrote:Having just listened to two clips of a favourite track my conclusion is I would never buy HiFi based on a smartphone recording! The same track sounds incredible on my system via Hakai one in room one and on my second system via Hakai two in room two.
I can't listen to the clips and not doubt the source of any sonic differences. Smartphone microphones just aren't accurate enough, in my view, to allow meaningful comparisons. They're not close to challenging Shure, Sennheiser etc. just yet.ThomasOK wrote:I don't think any of us would. Certainly for me it is not about whether a smartphone recording can sound as musical as a track in your room (of a musical system, of course) but whether it allows you to hear important musical differences between two devices, settings, etc. This can definitely help in deciding what to investigate.FairPlayMotty wrote:Having just listened to two clips of a favourite track my conclusion is I would never buy HiFi based on a smartphone recording! The same track sounds incredible on my system via Hakai one in room one and on my second system via Hakai two in room two.
In this example I also find the first clip sluggish and easily prefer the second one. Does either of them compare to what I hear playing the same track in my room on my somewhat less than optimal HAKAI? Most definitely not. Then again the HAKAI isn't nearly as musical as the same track played off vinyl on my Klimax LP12, so I suppose I should just give up on digital streaming altogether (I see you nodding back there, beck!).
While on the clips, I have finally had the time to listen to the four clips from David Neel of the two different boards. I am with the majority here and find the first clip of the first pair more musical (even at the very beginning before the instruments come in) and I prefer the second clip on the second set of clips. Given this, and the comments about the J3455 in comparison, I am most definitely looking forward to the arrival of my N3160N that I ordered last week. Looks like I have another upgrade coming!
Fair point. If the above is true that would leave us with two options. We could stop making comparisons using clips (boring forum in sight) or you could just disregard the comments. The comments on this forum should not lessen your enjoyment at home. I for one believe you when you say you really enjoy listening to music via Hakai.FairPlayMotty wrote: I can't listen to the clips and not doubt the source of any sonic differences. Smartphone microphones just aren't accurate enough, in my view, to allow meaningful comparisons.
The clips are enjoyable and fun. I just wouldn't bet a dime on the accuracy, suspect unconscious angle change to a smartphone mic makes a big difference. Despite best efforts one clip made me feel slightly seasick yesterday. Fun though!beck wrote:Fair point. If the above is true that would leave us with two options. We could stop making comparisons using clips (boring forum in sight) or you could just disregard the comments. The comments on this forum should not lessen your enjoyment at home. I for one believe you when you say you really enjoy listening to music via Hakai.FairPlayMotty wrote: I can't listen to the clips and not doubt the source of any sonic differences. Smartphone microphones just aren't accurate enough, in my view, to allow meaningful comparisons.
In the end I find the discussions when comparing clips and the thoughts they generate the most valuable and interesting of all.
It depends on your definition of 'accuracy'.FairPlayMotty wrote:I just wouldn't bet a dime on the accuracy, suspect unconscious angle change to a smartphone mic makes a big difference.
I listened earlier and preferred 1 for the same reason. I listened again a moment ago and wasn’t so sure either.tokenbrit wrote:1 is rhythmically more catchy than 2.
Interesting! As you're the man who got me into this pastime of posting clips, I'd love to know why.Spannko wrote:1 sounds wrong. 2 sounds better. Personally, I don’t think it’s close.
Thanks! Gives me a few things to think about....Spannko wrote:1 sounds wrong. 2 sounds better. Personally, I don’t think it’s close.
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You only gave us 2 hours! I’ve been busy so couldn’t post, and then I discover most prefer 1.
First time round, it took one note of 1 to know it was so out of tune there was something obviously wrong.
Listening again, to make sure I haven’t made a mistake, based on what I’m hearing though my iPad speakers, I’d give 1 a musicality score of 3-5, and 2 a score of 6-7’ish (out of 10).