Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

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Which power amps?

Poll ended at 2019-10-13 08:14

Aktiv Akurate 4200 x2 and 2200
0
No votes
Klimax Twin
1
6%
Klimax Solos
5
31%
Something else?
10
63%
 
Total votes: 16

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Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by gettingwings » 2019-10-05 08:14

I am replacing my Linn Aktive Keilidhs with a pair of 242s and wanted others views on what power amps to choose.

I currently have ADSM, 4200 and 2200 (all have Dynamic power supply).
To go Aktive on the 242 I'd need another 4200, 10 Aktive cards, and the world's most inconvenient quint wire speaker cable - this feels a little too much effort, so I was considering moving to a simpler passive system with a Klimax Twin or possibly Solos.

I have heard all three setups on different occasions and have been very impressed, but haven't been able to find anywhere to listen to the three side by side. The three options have vastly different price tags so I wanted thoughts from others who have considered something similar.

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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by anthony » 2019-10-05 09:11

gettingwings wrote:
2019-10-05 08:14
I am replacing my Linn Aktive Keilidhs with a pair of 242s and wanted others views on what power amps to choose.

I currently have ADSM, 4200 and 2200 (all have Dynamic power supply).
To go Aktive on the 242 I'd need another 4200, 10 Aktive cards, and the world's most inconvenient quint wire speaker cable - this feels a little too much effort, so I was considering moving to a simpler passive system with a Klimax Twin or possibly Solos.

I have heard all three setups on different occasions and have been very impressed, but haven't been able to find anywhere to listen to the three side by side. The three options have vastly different price tags so I wanted thoughts from others who have considered something similar.
I have used 242s for many years, and prefer passive to using aktiv with the cards in akurate amps. The better way to aktiv would be to use an akurate exakt crossover.
I still rate the passive option highly.
You won't be disappointed with either amp, also consider lejonklou Tundra, but spend less on the amp and upgrade source to katalyst or klimax level.

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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by Spannko » 2019-10-05 12:57

+ 1

EDIT: Thinking a bit more, I’d rather have a Katalyst KDS/Melco/Innuos, with your current amp/s and speakers, in preference to an Akurate DS, with any amps and speakers.
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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by sunbeamgls » 2019-10-05 17:04

If selling your existing amps allows you enough funds for Solos/D, choosing a Twin would be a shame :)
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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by gettingwings » 2019-10-05 18:01

Sadly I'd need to find several thousand extra to move to Solos - are the Solos really that much better than the Twin?

In the poll it looks like most people are suggesting something else other than the Linn amps. I've never heard a Tundra - quality and cost wise what is the Linn comparator?

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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by ThomasOK » 2019-10-05 19:08

gettingwings wrote:
2019-10-05 18:01
Sadly I'd need to find several thousand extra to move to Solos - are the Solos really that much better than the Twin?

In the poll it looks like most people are suggesting something else other than the Linn amps. I've never heard a Tundra - quality and cost wise what is the Linn comparator?
In answer to question one, yes.

As unlikely as it may seem, I would say the latest Tundra 2.5 is musically at least in the league of Solos (I haven't done a direct comparison so I have to be a bit vague here). But even the Tundra 1.0 version was more tuneful on some stuff and less tuneful on others in direct comparisons I did in the store at the time. The Tundra Monos are the best amps I have yet heard. Neither Tundra has quite as much useable power as the Solos, although it is closer than the specs would lead you to believe, but for most people on most speakers they have more than enough.
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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by Matteo » 2019-10-05 22:43

ThomasOK wrote:
2019-10-05 19:08
As unlikely as it may seem, I would say the latest Tundra 2.5 is musically at least in the league of Solos (I haven't done a direct comparison so I have to be a bit vague here).
Did you intend the Tundra stereo?

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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by ThomasOK » 2019-10-05 22:48

Yes, the Tundra 2.5 is the official name for the latest version stereo unit. The mono units are named Tundra Mono 2.2.
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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by Ianw » 2019-10-06 10:48

Here’s my ten Cents

I’ve only heard Lejonklou amps driving Linn 109 and it sounded fine within the physical limits of a smallish ‘speaker regarding scale of the music. So, unfortunately, I haven’t experienced these amps driving 242s.

However, I’m using a KDSM/KAT into a pair of Dynamik Solos into 242 Mk2 with improved one piece stands and find the results are excellent to me anyway. So my system is very simple passive affair.

One one occasion I had to temporarily run the 242 on an A2200 and found the sound to be very weedy and untuneful. The amp just wasn’t uo to the job of driving the 242 which seems to be a very demanding load.

I think you will get good results going fully active with Akurate amplification.

Alternatively go for passive Solos if you can but I’m guessing going for passive twin would maybe a bit disappointing?

Just my opinion it I’m sure other members can chime in with their experience of Lejonklou amps on 242?

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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by Ozzzy189 » 2019-10-06 11:25

As someone who’s tried akurate and lejonklou amps with ninkas, and lejonklou amps with 109s, dynaudio audience 42s and various totems I’d implore you to at least try a tundra stereo.it IS far more enjoyable and entertaining than a twin and for most people the extra power of the twin will not equate to a more involving sound. Solos sound out of reach in reality so I’d look at an ads kat and a tundra 2.5.
So yes, you can guess I voted for ‘something else ‘.
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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by Ozzzy189 » 2019-10-06 11:25

As someone who’s tried akurate and lejonklou amps with ninkas, and lejonklou amps with 109s, dynaudio audience 42s and various totems I’d implore you to at least try a tundra stereo.it IS far more enjoyable and entertaining than a twin and for most people the extra power of the twin will not equate to a more involving sound. Solos sound out of reach in reality so I’d look at an ads kat and a tundra 2.5.
So yes, you can guess I voted for ‘something else ‘.
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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by Matteo » 2019-10-06 15:43

Ozzzy189 wrote:
2019-10-06 11:25
As someone who’s tried akurate and lejonklou amps with ninkas, and lejonklou amps with 109s, dynaudio audience 42s and various totems I’d implore you to at least try a tundra stereo.it IS far more enjoyable and entertaining than a twin and for most people the extra power of the twin will not equate to a more involving sound. Solos sound out of reach in reality so I’d look at an ads kat and a tundra 2.5.
So yes, you can guess I voted for ‘something else ‘.
I like my AK/1 while I guess that the weak part of my system is the A2200.
I would listen to the Tundra since years, but it seems an hard challenge where I live.

I’m almost ready to buy a 2.5 with a leap of faith, but first I should sell my A2200 at a non-offensive price.

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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by Sound Hound » 2019-10-06 16:21

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Re: Linn Klimax Twin or Solos

Post by macrotech2 » 2019-10-06 18:43

Ianw wrote:
2019-10-06 10:48
Just my opinion it I’m sure other members can chime in with their experience of Lejonklou amps on 242?
A Tundra Stereo or Monos has/have no problem driving 242s and sound absolutely superb. Even the original Tundra Monos bettered my Dynamiked Klimax Twin, and they have been improved very significantly since then.

Like ThomasOK, I was a Linn diehard since 1984, but once you hear the natural and effortless music that Lejonklou pre and power amps produce, I don't think you'll go back to Linn's now over-analytical and artificially electronic (in comparison) sound. There's just no comparison for me.
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