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Acquiring early pressings.?

Post by bonzo » 2019-05-02 01:23

If I am posting this in the wrong category please forgive me. So tonight I sat down to listen to Zeppelin. houses on the holy. I’ve mentioned in the past this is my least favorite album, however this pressing is one that is “sample copy Not for sale”. I’ve learned this is a rather early pressing and I have to say, Wow! This sounds great! So, my question.. where could a huge Zeppelin and Pink Floyd fan go to obtain earlier pressings? I’ve also read that the statement “but the album from the country the band is from” applied to many but not Zeppelin. My goal would be to purchase a few albums (not the unplayed, sealed) crazy price ones, but ones that significantly outperform my current copies. Not looking to collect, not concerned with bent corners on album cover.. just looking for more music. I hope that made sense.
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Post by markiteight » 2019-05-02 02:42

Have you tried https://www.discogs.com ? It's been the best resource I've found so far. They even break down each album into the different pressings so you can search for exactly what you want.

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Post by bonzo » 2019-05-02 03:17

Thanks so much for your quick response. I find it difficult to identify/filter which copy for sale is actually an earlier pressing. Suggestions?
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Post by Matteo » 2019-05-02 07:50

+1 for Discogs.

You can also find useful information regarding which version of an album on the Steve Hoffmann forum.

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Post by Spannko » 2019-05-02 08:08

bonzo wrote:
2019-05-02 03:17
Thanks so much for your quick response. I find it difficult to identify/filter which copy for sale is actually an earlier pressing. Suggestions?
They’re listed in date order!

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Post by Charlie1 » 2019-05-02 08:28

The ‘buy from country of origin’ advise is perhaps best viewed as a shortcut in place of time consuming online research so long as you know there are many exceptions, Led Zep being a good example. Some exceptions will be down to the album level, not just the band. There are no failsafe hard and fast rules from what I can gather. Research, such as the Hoffman forum Matteo mentioned, is by far the best way but it takes times.

I also use discogs to buy most LPs. Takes a while to get the hang of how best to do things. Quite good cos it will often breaks down popular US releases into the various pressing plants. You have to read the sellers notes though cos some will just stick their items anywhere convenient.

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Post by Tendaberry » 2019-05-02 10:56

Another vote for Discogs. I can verify that the early pressings are better. We have done quite a few comparisons over the years. If you want to make sure that it's an early one, go for the "Promo" versions (from the year the record was released). Sometimes, however, there are also promo-versions of re-releases, but avoid these. And for Zeppelin, the US versions are definitely the best ones. Especially good are the Robert Ludwig masterings of II and III, but they command silly prices ($400,- upwards for VG+). I avoid remasters, if at all possible, because they usually screw up the tune and timing.

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Post by Charlie1 » 2019-05-02 12:23

+1 ref re-issues.

Can't recall a single re-issue that I prefer yet, or even like that much, apart from much quieter vinyl. The Rhino / Hoffman / Gray version of 'Blue' is quite pleasent but I much prefer my knackered second UK pressing which is nothing special at all.

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Post by nmakowsk » 2019-07-16 16:49

I agree that Robert Ludwig copies of Zep 2 and 3 are pretty scarce and have high demand but I have found many RL copies of Houses of the Holy on original USA pressings. When I attended record shows years ago in Ann Arbor I would find quite a few usually from Presswell plant (PR) or Richmond, Indiana (RI label code). Cost about 20 dollars so not bad and these do sound good. One of the first records I stole from my dad's collection and beat up when I was younger....
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Post by Ianw » 2019-07-16 21:16

Charlie1 wrote:
2019-05-02 12:23
+1 ref re-issues.

Can't recall a single re-issue that I prefer yet, or even like that much, apart from much quieter vinyl. The Rhino / Hoffman / Gray version of 'Blue' is quite pleasent but I much prefer my knackered second UK pressing which is nothing special at all.
I also have the Rhino pressing and an old pressing. The Rhino is supposed to be superior, but to my ears the standard pressing is more alive and times the music better.

Got to agree that a lot of MOFI’s I have heard are quite dead and flat. MOFI isn’t all it’s racked up to be IMHO; there are far better labels available and original pressings are good provided you can get a nice copy that’s not beat-up.

Although the MOFI One Step Nightfly and Bill Evans are exceptional IMHO. I have both of these, but haven’t heard the other releases.

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Post by Ianw » 2019-07-16 21:28

Ianw wrote:
2019-07-16 21:16
Charlie1 wrote:
2019-05-02 12:23
+1 ref re-issues.

Can't recall a single re-issue that I prefer yet, or even like that much, apart from much quieter vinyl. The Rhino / Hoffman / Gray version of 'Blue' is quite pleasent but I much prefer my knackered second UK pressing which is nothing special at all.
I also have the Rhino pressing and an old pressing. The Rhino is supposed to be superior, but to my ears the standard pressing is more alive and times the music better.

Got to agree that a lot of MOFI’s I have heard are quite dead and flat. MOFI isn’t all it’s racked up to be IMHO; there are far better labels available and original pressings are good provided you can get a nice copy that’s not beat-up.

Although the MOFI One Step Nightfly and Bill Evans are exceptional IMHO. I have both of these, but haven’t heard the other releases. Not forgetting The Nightfly is a digital recording.

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