+1monkeydevil wrote:Eagerly awaitng your view of the sound/musicality of the new firmware compared to 221 and 227. 8)
New ESS and H8S for Unidisk 1.1 and 2.1
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With everyone waiting on Fredrik and Fredrik waiting on someone else it may be a while before we hear which is better. :) Since we don't have a working UniDisk in the store right now I'm afraid I can't be of any help. :(Komri wrote:+1Music Lover wrote:+1monkeydevil wrote:Eagerly awaitng your view of the sound/musicality of the new firmware compared to 221 and 227. 8)
Ok, I just tried the new ESS. Quite surprised by the result!
Dry, constrained and almost a bit strangled sound. Appears to be a bit lower in volume (probably isn't, didn't measure). Bass notes constantly seem to be on the verge of going out of tune - peculiar and not very pleasant. Timing worse, nothing gels.
Back to ESS 221 music is once again flowing and making sense. So much better!
It's possible that ESS 231 needs the updated Laser Mech firmware as well to perform optimally, but right now I feel like I probably got better things to do...
Dry, constrained and almost a bit strangled sound. Appears to be a bit lower in volume (probably isn't, didn't measure). Bass notes constantly seem to be on the verge of going out of tune - peculiar and not very pleasant. Timing worse, nothing gels.
Back to ESS 221 music is once again flowing and making sense. So much better!
It's possible that ESS 231 needs the updated Laser Mech firmware as well to perform optimally, but right now I feel like I probably got better things to do...
How does the latest sw perform on an Akurate CD?
H8 S1150223
ESS 511880231
Firmware 03.04.02.00
compared to older versions?
Currently I have follwing versions installed:
H8 S1150222
ESS 511880229
Firmware 03.04.00.00
Would the player perform better an with older or newer version?
And above all, must the system be re-tuned again after a sw change? I suspect that the whole system must be retuned after a sw upgrade which make the comparison a bit harder. It also makes me hesitate to make the upgrade because I think it is very hard to actuallly find the optimal placement of speakers. Besides, if you prefer the sound of the LP12, you don't want to mess with the speaker setup because of the CD. Implies this that the preferred software version actually is based on how the system is installed from the beginning? and on how similar they are to the source used when the speakers position was decided?
H8 S1150223
ESS 511880231
Firmware 03.04.02.00
compared to older versions?
Currently I have follwing versions installed:
H8 S1150222
ESS 511880229
Firmware 03.04.00.00
Would the player perform better an with older or newer version?
And above all, must the system be re-tuned again after a sw change? I suspect that the whole system must be retuned after a sw upgrade which make the comparison a bit harder. It also makes me hesitate to make the upgrade because I think it is very hard to actuallly find the optimal placement of speakers. Besides, if you prefer the sound of the LP12, you don't want to mess with the speaker setup because of the CD. Implies this that the preferred software version actually is based on how the system is installed from the beginning? and on how similar they are to the source used when the speakers position was decided?
Welcome to the forum, peru!
I have many times compared later ESS firmware version of the Unidisk 1.1 with the one I think is best: 221. In several cases, the system has been carefully tuned with either an LP12, a DS or a different version of ESS. Still I find 221 to be better. This indicates that a retune of the system is not essential. But if your only source is the ACD, you might be able to tune the system slightly with a new ESS. My guess is that the speakers will be moved very little, if anything at all.
From what I understand, the ESS for ACD is a stripped down version of the Unidisk 1.1/2.1 version. Therefore you can't use the Unidisk firmware, you have to find the ACD versions. My guess is that ESS 221 and H8S 218 is the best sounding versions for the ACD (as they are for the Unidisk), but I am not 100% sure. Maybe someone else can confirm?
I have many times compared later ESS firmware version of the Unidisk 1.1 with the one I think is best: 221. In several cases, the system has been carefully tuned with either an LP12, a DS or a different version of ESS. Still I find 221 to be better. This indicates that a retune of the system is not essential. But if your only source is the ACD, you might be able to tune the system slightly with a new ESS. My guess is that the speakers will be moved very little, if anything at all.
From what I understand, the ESS for ACD is a stripped down version of the Unidisk 1.1/2.1 version. Therefore you can't use the Unidisk firmware, you have to find the ACD versions. My guess is that ESS 221 and H8S 218 is the best sounding versions for the ACD (as they are for the Unidisk), but I am not 100% sure. Maybe someone else can confirm?
Ahh right, the ACD came that late. Well, then I can't help you with the ESS.
It's recommended that you treat ESS and H8S as a pair that goes together. I haven't gone against this advice, so I don't know what happens, but quite a few people have reported no sound difference from H8S updates (in contrast to ESS).
It's recommended that you treat ESS and H8S as a pair that goes together. I haven't gone against this advice, so I don't know what happens, but quite a few people have reported no sound difference from H8S updates (in contrast to ESS).
As I wrote: Power cycle = switch off and then back ON. When it starts, you have access to the menu. Right?Slav wrote:Hi
point 13 says :
"Power cycle the unit , the open drawer will close"
point 14 :
"Press SETUP and go to PREFERENCE/DEFAULTS and press RESET.
If I power it down at the back I won't have access to Menu .
Although they state it should be on a CD/R, if it loaded as per the instructions (with the correct "loading..." messages showing on the display) then it should be OK to have used the DVD/R.
While it has been a long time since I have done one of these I seem to remember that it normally displays CHECKSUM READING ERROR on the screen when you power back up after doing the update. I think this is because you haven't completed the last step of resetting the defaults. Once you reset the defaults the UniDisk will now know the new software should be there and the CHECKSUM READING ERROR should no longer show up when powering up the unit.
While it has been a long time since I have done one of these I seem to remember that it normally displays CHECKSUM READING ERROR on the screen when you power back up after doing the update. I think this is because you haven't completed the last step of resetting the defaults. Once you reset the defaults the UniDisk will now know the new software should be there and the CHECKSUM READING ERROR should no longer show up when powering up the unit.
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