Recommended control points

[u252agz]

I finally managed to get my hands on an I pad mini 6 on Xmas day.


Initial impressions were poor - really poor.

After a period of reflection ( longer than usual due to the soporific effects of an overly indulgent Xmas dinner), I went back to the offending I pad and changed the default Spotify settings to the recommended ones!

Big difference - the music was back and definitely more musical than the previous I pad mini ( a few years old )

Not a huge improvement from the previous I pad but clearly better and definitely worthwhile.

[David Neel]

Thank you u252agz! I read your post in the smug knowledge that I had carefully optimised the settings on my new ipad mini. So smug was I feeling that I checked mine - and found that streaming quality was only high, not very high! Oops! Now fixed...

[matthias]

Interesting that even the "high" setting on Spotify is then superior to Qobuz.......

[jajo]

Interesting that even the "high" setting on Spotify is then superior to Qobuz.......

It is because bitrate is not high on the list things of things that matter most when it comes to streaming performance.

Many "old truths" when it comes to digital music reproduction will prove to be wrong with Källa.

[FairPlayMotty]

It is because bitrate is not high on the list things of things that matter most when it comes to streaming performance.

Many "old truths" when it comes to digital music reproduction will prove to be wrong with Källa.

For playback bitrate is overrated aside from very low bitrates (around eight) for digital which raises the noise floor. On the analogue side the bitrate for cassettes was from five to nine, for studio tape the best achievable is around thirteen.

[tokenbrit]

Quick iPad Mini 6 question: is there any way to have sound output default to Airplay-Lejonklou*? It keeps reverting to iPad...

* other than keep playing music ;)

[jajo]

Quick iPad Mini 6 question: is there any way to have sound output default to Airplay-Lejonklou*? It keeps reverting to iPad...

* other than keep playing music ;)

The only two scenarios where it would disconnect is if it drops wifi connection or if you try playing from Mini when Källa is busy playing from another control point. Otherwise it should remain connected.

[tokenbrit]

Quick iPad Mini 6 question: is there any way to have sound output default to Airplay-Lejonklou*? It keeps reverting to iPad...

* other than keep playing music ;)

The only two scenarios where it would disconnect is if it drops wifi connection or if you try playing from Mini when Källa is busy playing from another control point. Otherwise it should remain connected.

Thanks. Maybe it's the case then, putting the iPad into standby, so pausing/dropping the WiFi...

[jajo]

Quick iPad Mini 6 question: is there any way to have sound output default to Airplay-Lejonklou*? It keeps reverting to iPad...

* other than keep playing music ;)

The only two scenarios where it would disconnect is if it drops wifi connection or if you try playing from Mini when Källa is busy playing from another control point. Otherwise it should remain connected.

Thanks. Maybe it's the case then, putting the iPad into standby, so pausing/dropping the WiFi...

Turning off the display does not disconnect wifi or connection to Källa. Not sure what you mean with "standby".

[tokenbrit]

The only two scenarios where it would disconnect is if it drops wifi connection or if you try playing from Mini when Källa is busy playing from another control point. Otherwise it should remain connected.

... Maybe it's the case then, putting the iPad into standby, so pausing/dropping the WiFi...

Turning off the display does not disconnect wifi or connection to Källa. Not sure what you mean with "standby".

Closing the front of the case puts the iPad to 'sleep'... If you're using another control point for Spotify, 'Listening on iPad mini' doesn't appear as an option unless you open the case to wake the iPad again. Also, with foobar2000 in particular (I think (will have to confirm)), it seems when I wake the iPad a time after playing an album, the output often reverts to iPad rather than Lejonklou (under Speakers & TVs)

[tokenbrit]

15.1 is great. No issues whatsoever.

Anyone / everyone using iPadOS 15.2 now?

[jajo]

15.1 is great. No issues whatsoever.

Anyone / everyone using iPadOS 15.2 now?

I always upgrade and so far I haven't noticed any reduced performance.

Sometimes I notice I temporary drop in performance the first 24 hours after upgrade. Sometimes there is no difference. But in the end it seems that the OS of the Control Point has very small influence on the end result.

[matthias]

I always upgrade and so far I haven't noticed any reduced performance.

Do you always upgrade to the latest Spotify version as well?
Thanks

[u252agz]

Quick iPad Mini 6 question: is there any way to have sound output default to Airplay-Lejonklou*? It keeps reverting to iPad...

* other than keep playing music ;)

I have had this problem as well.

It seems that when I turn off the mini iPad by pressing the on/ off button- it reverts to a default of sound output to iPad speakers.

But I am now letting the iPad go to sleep by itself - and it seems to stay with ‘ lejonklou’ as the output.

Has worked this morning at least!

[u252agz]

Another question.

How do you use the I pad mini as the controller from other apple devices.

I can’t see it in the AirPlay/Bluetooth section?

Not a problem as such - just curious

[matthias]

Another question.
How do you use the I pad mini as the controller from other apple devices.
I can’t see it in the AirPlay/Bluetooth section?
Not a problem as such - just curious

You control the iPad mini via Spotify Connect from the other apple device.

[springwood64]

Another question.

How do you use the I pad mini as the controller from other apple devices.

For Spotify, run the Spotify app on the iPad mini.

Then run Spotify on another device (Android, iPhone, desktop etc). Tap on the loudspeaker icon in the Spotify app and you should see the iPad mini as an available speaker.

Due to (arguably) a design flaw in the Spotify connect protocol, once you have connected via Spotify Connect, you can play to that device even if you are not on the same network. I've managed to play music at home while working in the office.

[ThomasOK]

Another question.

How do you use the I pad mini as the controller from other apple devices.

For Spotify, run the Spotify app on the iPad mini.

Then run Spotify on another device (Android, iPhone, desktop etc). Tap on the loudspeaker icon in the Spotify app and you should see the iPad mini as an available speaker.

Due to (arguably) a design flaw in the Spotify connect protocol, once you have connected via Spotify Connect, you can play to that device even if you are not on the same network. I've managed to play music at home while working in the office.

Yes, I can control the home system (currently playing Christmas music for the puppy) from the store.

The problem I have is that I can't seem to use Spotify on my iPhone in the store without it stopping play at the house.

[Azazello]

Sorry if this question is already asked, but would you say the iPad mini is worth buying for the sound improvement alone?

I’m currently playing from an iPad pro 2021.

[u252agz]

Another question.

How do you use the I pad mini as the controller from other apple devices.

For Spotify, run the Spotify app on the iPad mini.

Then run Spotify on another device (Android, iPhone, desktop etc). Tap on the loudspeaker icon in the Spotify app and you should see the iPad mini as an available speaker.

Due to (arguably) a design flaw in the Spotify connect protocol, once you have connected via Spotify Connect, you can play to that device even if you are not on the same network. I've managed to play music at home while working in the office.

I keep trying but with Airplay/Bluetooth I only ever see Lejonklou and all my sky boxes.

Do I need to do something to get my network to ‘see’ the iPad mini 6.

[tokenbrit]

I keep trying but with Airplay/Bluetooth I only ever see Lejonklou and all my sky boxes.

Do I need to do something to get my network to ‘see’ the iPad mini 6.

On the iPad Mini 6 you run Spotify, and choose Airplay to Lejonklou...
On another device running Spotify, you can then select iPad Mini for the Spotify output to control what Spotify plays to/through the iPad Mini 6 to Lejonklou.

[matthias]

Fredrik,
is there any chance that newer MacBooks (Air, Pro) with M chips can be tested for the Recommended Control Points list?
Thanks

[lejonklou]

Fredrik,
is there any chance that newer MacBooks (Air, Pro) with M chips can be tested for the Recommended Control Points list?
Thanks

Yes! We've tested the latest top model of MacBook (crazy fast and crazy expensive) and it sounds fantastic.

It definitely belongs in the top range of control points, but we have yet to compare it with the iPad mini 6.

[David Neel]

Yes! We've tested the latest top model of MacBook (crazy fast and crazy expensive) and it sounds fantastic.

It definitely belongs in the top range of control points, but we have yet to compare it with the iPad mini 6.

My credit card would like to tell you that nothing, nothing, can beat an ipad mini 6...

[ThomasOK]

Yes! We've tested the latest top model of MacBook (crazy fast and crazy expensive) and it sounds fantastic.

It definitely belongs in the top range of control points, but we have yet to compare it with the iPad mini 6.

My credit card would like to tell you that nothing, nothing, can beat an ipad mini 6...

Mine too!