Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Considering the upgrade path, does Klimax Radikal come before Keel/Ekos?
I posted this question on the wigwam lp12 section but there are very few people that follow the forum.
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I posted this question on the wigwam lp12 section but there are very few people that follow the forum.
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Sounds like a technical success. Now, cosmetically.........................................
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Great idea Alan. How does it sound?
Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Yes, with the enlarged photo and flash the paint retouches near the rear connectors are amplified, as well as the underlayment, fortunately these imperfections are hardly noticeable or little. Otherwise I would have emptied the box and done the painting in the oven at a painter in carosserie
Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
With a friend we exchanged for a few days his Radikal Klimax and the Radikal Aluminium 10mm; the differences are small, we considered that both sound with a nice resemblance. The circuits of the Radikal klimax are mounted upside down, probably, the closing screws of the lid become invisible underneath.
Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Scrolling through my music I found some recordings I've made in summer 2018 comparing the same Radikal board and Dynamik PSU in Akurate and Klimax housing.
I like to share these recordings so you can hear the difference by yourself, or not :-)
I've put 4 tracks in a zip-file.
The link opens a page with some text and the zip-file. (This is my personal server.)
Radikal Akurate vs Klimax
IT'S JUST THE CASE
I like to share these recordings so you can hear the difference by yourself, or not :-)
I've put 4 tracks in a zip-file.
The link opens a page with some text and the zip-file. (This is my personal server.)
Radikal Akurate vs Klimax
IT'S JUST THE CASE
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Cool ITB!ITB wrote: ↑2021-01-25 22:13 Scrolling through my music I found some recordings I've made in summer 2018 comparing the same Radikal board and Dynamik PSU in Akurate and Klimax housing.
I like to share these recordings so you can hear the difference by yourself, or not :-)
I've put 4 tracks in a zip-file.
The link opens a page with some text and the zip-file. (This is my personal server.)
Radikal Akurate vs Klimax
I'm downloading them now and will listen tomorrow.
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Thanks ITB.
For me, that closes the issue pretty conclusively.
By the way, was the sound playing out through speakers during the recording ?
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
I have made the recordings with Songcorder and listen to the tracks during recording, KK at low volume.
So these are digital recordings using KRDSM AD conversion.
Proces is: LP12 Urika -> Klimax Renew DSM ADC-> Songcast -> Songcorder -> Harddisk PC -> SoundForge (for editing, normalize to max 0dB output -> flac).
So these are digital recordings using KRDSM AD conversion.
Proces is: LP12 Urika -> Klimax Renew DSM ADC-> Songcast -> Songcorder -> Harddisk PC -> SoundForge (for editing, normalize to max 0dB output -> flac).
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Thanks ITB,
Those are very good recordings, I also use low or zero volume, for best results, when recording vinyl to digital.
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Thanks a lot for the clips. Or rather not as I will need to start saving ;-) Massive difference.
Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Long shot…. but I will ask the question anyway… if you had to choose K-Rad 1 vs A-Rad 2 at a similar price, which one would you pick and would be the most musical?
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
I haven’t compared them, but probably the Klimax, as this could be upgraded later to the current specs. I upgraded from Akurate/1 Radikal to Klimax/2 and the difference is huge.
Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
I haven't done this comparison (it isn't particularly easy to do as the Radikal 2 motor and control board are not compatible with their Radikal 1 equivalents so you can't just swap out the control box). My belief is that the Akurate Radikal 2 would likely musically outperform the Klimax Radikal 1 due to the motor and controller being more important than the case. Despite that I agree with Tendaberry that I would recomend going to the Klimax Radikal 1 as it can later be upgraded to the Radikal 2 at a reasonable price. Upgrading an Akurate Radikal 2 to a Klimax Radikal 2 is not likely to be as cost effective. After all the Klimax Radikal 2 costs $2925 more than the Akurate version and you wouldn't likely get back what you paid for it on a trade in. The Radikal 2 upgrade costs $2275, these being US prices.Tendaberry wrote: ↑2022-02-10 23:46 I haven’t compared them, but probably the Klimax, as this could be upgraded later to the current specs. I upgraded from Akurate/1 Radikal to Klimax/2 and the difference is huge.
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Re: Klimax vs Akurate Radikal
Hello Matteo,
nice to see you again. Coming from Lingo2 - Ekos2 ... I first added a Kore.
Then Lingo2 went for a Klimax Radikal.
Keel, and Ekos/SE are now on order since end of last year, together with the Radikal Upgrade
I skipped the Akurate Radikal right away, after doing the Akurate vs Radikal direct comparison at my dealer.
I also did a Kore vs Keel comparison, longer ago before ordering the Kore.
Do you mean, if the Radikals or the subchassis should be optimized first? From my memory, both upgrades brought similar improvements. But that was the old Radikal. With the additional improvements, and provided that a Kore is already in place, I'd be even more convinced to do Radikal first, and Keel later.
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