Anyone hear the Tonläget’s Klångedang T1 bookshelves as yet?

LinnLizzy · Post by **LinnLizzy** » 2012-05-17 16:59

I believe that they're in the prototype stage.
If anyone has, what were their findings, and what kit was used with them?
Any idea if they're going to be able to be demo'ed in the UK?

Thanks again!

Linnofil · Post by **Linnofil** » 2012-06-05 13:34

There are som impressions on the Swedish forums here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?t ... 4%26t%3D44
and here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... 26t%3D8516

I think they are very impressive! They are constructed of solid wood, inspired by the knowledge gained during the development of the Harmonihyllan racks. The stands where during the prototype stages made of wood, but are know made of aluminum (central pillar) and wood (top and bottom). The passive filters are in separate boxes, placed away from the speakers and are supposed to be of a very special design. I haven't seen the final version of the cabinet yet, but last time I was there I heard that they where in the final building phase.

The sound is very clean and it sounds a lot bigger than what meets the eye. Bass response is deep and clean, feels much deeper and more powerful than with the Majik 109. Treble is smooth and precise. I haven't compared directly with the Majik 109, but I'm pretty sure they are better than them. The Klångedang T1 sounds more fun, more musical and engaging than with the Majik 109. Very much the same type of difference as between the Tundra and the A2200 poweramps. I have 109's and I want a pair of Klångedang T1! (Not only because I like to buy local and support Swedish business.) If I get the chance to compare directly in the same system I will try and post my impressions here first...

I have no idea when/if they will be avaliable to the UK market, but a demo is only a Ryanair flight away... The Tonläget shop is only about 10 km away from the Gothenburg City Airport. I go past the airport everyday on my way to work, I might even be able to provide a lift!

PerFlemming · Post by **PerFlemming** » 2012-07-16 22:07

How much are these speakers ?

stefan · Post by **stefan** » 2012-07-19 10:57

PerFlemming wrote:How much are these speakers ?

There is a homepage http://www.klangedang.se/ including prices (prislista), swedish only. Haven't been updated for a while though, prices are still stated as preliminary.

Music Lover · Post by **Music Lover** » 2012-07-19 16:59

App 2.5k€ + 350€ for the stands

Post by **lejonklou** » 2012-08-11 00:06

Today I was at Tonläget to update all Tundras in the Gothenburg region to version 1.1. It was a very nice visit and I got to hear the latest version of Klangedang T1, with bolted on aluminium stands and a wooden foot. To summarise my impressions: They are fantastic and I want a pair at home right now!

The T1's really have a remarkable ability to draw me right into the music and make me want to keep listening. I felt that the intention of each song was so clear and easy to grasp. Twice I said to Anders "I don't really like this song, but I have to admit I really want to hear the rest of it".

These speakers have some truly unique qualities and I strongly recommend you all to give them a listen. I'm so impressed! The only thing remaining now is the finish. I'd like the solid wood cabinets to be in black, so I'd prefer the stands in black, too. I hope that Anders will be able to fix that.

Charlie1 · Post by **Charlie1** » 2012-08-12 10:37

Good to hear they are very musical Fredrik. Any downsides on the sound quality front, compared to 109s? Obviously, I'm thinking they don't have a super-tweeter like the 109s.

They do look a bit home made at the moment, but I suspect the veneer will fix that.

matthias · Post by **matthias** » 2012-08-12 13:46

Charlie1 wrote:Good to hear they are very musical Fredrik. Any downsides on the sound quality front, compared to 109s? Obviously, I'm thinking they don't have a super-tweeter like the 109s.
They do look a bit home made at the moment, but I suspect the veneer will fix that.

Charlie,

comparing to the 109 you have to pay the double price for the Klangedang. The other downside may be an efficiency around 84 dB versus 88 dB(109)

KR

matthias

Charlie1 · Post by **Charlie1** » 2012-08-12 14:02

matthias wrote:comparing to the 109 you have to pay the double price for the Klangedang. The other downside may be an efficiency around 84 dB versus 88 dB(109)

Thanks Matthias. Roughly second hand 212 pricing then. Do you know if Anders was inspired by any particular speaker model or did he start without any preconceptions and test lots of alternatives? Just curious how he approached things.

matthias · Post by **matthias** » 2012-08-12 14:23

Charlie1 wrote:
matthias wrote:comparing to the 109 you have to pay the double price for the Klangedang. The other downside may be an efficiency around 84 dB versus 88 dB(109)
Thanks Matthias. Roughly second hand 212 pricing then. Do you know if Anders was inspired by any particular speaker model or did he start without any preconceptions and test lots of alternatives? Just curious how he approached things.

Charlie,

I would go to "klangedang.se" and translate via Google. They have an external passive crossover in close proximity to the amplifier and try to avoid timing errors.

Charlie1 · Post by **Charlie1** » 2012-08-12 14:54

matthias wrote:I would go to "klangedang.se" and translate via Google. They have an external passive crossover in close proximity to the amplifier and try to avoid timing errors.

Thanks. Interesting, especially there being no veneer. Quite a sacrifice for many people I would think. Maybe the final product will better resemble the quality of much living room furniture. Or, perhaps the photo doesn't do it justice.

Post by **lejonklou** » 2012-08-12 21:10

What do you mean by 'no veneer' Charlie? One of the main things about the speaker is that it's made of solid wood. And you can get it in different woods. Who would want veneer on solid wood?

Apart from that, it also has an unusual passive filter. And like with Harmonihyllan, massive amounts of trial and error has gone into each detail. Currently the aluminium stand is screwed to the speaker and filled with wool.

I so much want to listen more to them. Had no time to compare with 109 or 212, as I was doing Tundra upgrades. Hard to know exactly how they relate to them, but based on what I heard I would guess somewhere in between.

Charlie1 · Post by **Charlie1** » 2012-08-12 21:42

lejonklou wrote:What do you mean by 'no veneer' Charlie? One of the main things about the speaker is that it's made of solid wood. And you can get it in different woods. Who would want veneer on solid wood?

I presumed they'd need something more, based on the photo, but as I said, perhaps the image doesn't do them justice. I can imagine solid wood could look very nice, so maybe the finished product will be much better. At the moment, they remind me of DIY speakers I've occassionally seen in magazines, and that would be a shame, especially if they sound as good as the above reports.

Linnofil · Post by **Linnofil** » 2012-08-13 13:01

Charlie1 wrote:I presumed they'd need something more, based on the photo, but as I said, perhaps the image doesn't do them justice. I can imagine solid wood could look very nice, so maybe the finished product will be much better. At the moment, they remind me of DIY speakers I've occassionally seen in magazines, and that would be a shame, especially if they sound as good as the above reports.

They do sound very good. And the picture is from his prototype box used for development. So it is indeed a DIY speaker look. Because it isn't made for looks. The final boxes are beeing made by the same carpenters that make the Harmonihyllan. No one have seen them yet, not even the designer himself. But the picture of the prototpes gives an indication of size and of the components used. I think there will not be any fronts to the speaker.

I have not yet made a comparison with the Majik 109's or A212, but based on memory I think they are priced correctly. I still want a pair.

Charlie1 · Post by **Charlie1** » 2012-08-13 13:08

Linnofil wrote:They do sound very good. And the picture is from his prototype box used for development. So it is indeed a DIY speaker look. Because it isn't made for looks. The final boxes are beeing made by the same carpenters that make the Harmonihyllan. No one have seen them yet, not even the designer himself. But the picture of the prototpes gives an indication of size and of the components used. I think there will not be any fronts to the speaker.

I have not yet made a comparison with the Majik 109's or A212, but based on memory I think they are priced correctly. I still want a pair.

Thanks Linnofil. That makes sense. Look forward to seeing the finished look. I hope they are successful - I just thought some (indirect) feedback at this stage might be useful to Anders, but clearly a bit early in the development cycle for that. They are nicely proportioned though.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » 2012-08-13 15:38

I have compared with both 109 and 140. The 109's shortcomings are obvious in comparison, they sound small and lacks bass. Like someone set a lower limit in them. The 140 doesn't sound small and lacks bass but other than that I don't really regard them that much better in tunedem. Klångedang have, for their size, a surprisingly deep and very tuneful bass. They can't shake the room like 140 but i'd say they play tunes better. Considering price is about the same (or a little less? the 140's had alustands) I think it's well justified. I won't say that they sound like the good old Linn Kan (Klångedang are better) but I do get the same feeling somehow of an enthusiast speaker that are very fun to listen to.

But this was sometimes in May/early June. Seems from Fredrik and Linnofil they are even better now (no surprise). A comparison with 212 would be very interesting.

magnuska · Post by **magnuska** » 2012-09-21 09:48

Hello!

Did anyone listened to it in Gothenburg hifi show at Arken last weekend?

Unfortunately I was not there. I had the chance to hear this prototype several months ago and at that time, even though it was not ready , the music was very addictive with great flow and tight presentation. I´m very curious how it sounds today.

//Magnus

Music Lover · Post by **Music Lover** » 2012-09-21 12:58

Only heard them once and without comparing with other speakers it's difficult to rate them. But they are great, that I can say!
Reminds me of Kan, fast fun and agile.

Anyone hear the Tonläget’s Klångedang T1 bookshelves as yet?

Anyone hear the Tonläget’s Klångedang T1 bookshelves as yet?

Tonläget’s Klångedang T1 bookshelves

Klångedang at Arken