Charlie1's System

[Charlie1]

I found the Saras were a bit better further apart.

What do folks think of these two - same distance apart?

Sound Org: https://www.dropbox.com/s/po7jnzrxzz5k1 ... 3.mp4?dl=0
Kan II: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l29zapp5czahn ... 7.mp4?dl=0

[El Mero Mero]

I tried them closer to the wall so that terminals were pushed against the wall and, as Tom said, this was worse. They are now about 6.5cm from the wall so I'll need Naim connectors to get them closer.

Have you tried soldering the cables with a 90 degree angel at the connector? I Did this with my K20 and Kans.

[Tendaberry]

I found the Saras were a bit better further apart.

What do folks think of these two - same distance apart?

Sound Org: https://www.dropbox.com/s/po7jnzrxzz5k1 ... 3.mp4?dl=0
Kan II: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l29zapp5czahn ... 7.mp4?dl=0

Sound Org sound better to me...

[beck]

.......now changed to not sure........?

[tokenbrit]

SO, maybe but are you sure about the better further apart? Thought yesterday's first clip sounded better...

[Charlie1]

You're right tokenbrit. I've brought them back in a bit. You've got good ears to pick up on that.

EDIT:
Kan II stands slightly further out now so that speakers are more central. In both sets of clips, there is something much more exciting to me about the Kan stands so they are keepers.
SO: https://www.dropbox.com/s/26y7nu7gq8jkx ... 6.mp4?dl=0
KAN II: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7e94fevnfpnj ... 9.mp4?dl=0

[Spannko]

I much prefer the Kan stands. The SO stands seem very unmusical to me: I’d even go as far as saying that they do a great job of turning music into noise 🙉 🙊

[Charlie1]

Thanks for your feedback Spannko.

Cookin' on gas again now :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twldq9ky009pn ... 0.mp4?dl=0

[tokenbrit]

Likely a few outside of this forum who think we have a screw loose for comparing clips, but these have been quite revealing of setup issues and improvements ;) Much better now :)

[Charlie1]

Yes, I probably should have left in my admission that I'd left the screws on one Kan stand untightened. And you were bang on ref speaker positions. I listened back to the clips and could hear it, so a lesson in not rushing when comparing clips by myself.

[beck]

Your system has now officially been beck approved for partying! :-)

......and yes, use the Kan II stands. I find them better with timing though very slightly more rough sounding.

[ThomasOK]

Yep, the Kan II stands are quite a bit better. It is indeed sounding quite good now.

[beck]

I would try them just a wee bit closer yet........ looking at and listening to your first Fleetwood Mac clip I think it was very good...

[Charlie1]

They are probably 2cm wider than yesterday. Is that what you want back? 🤔 😁

[beck]

Yes!

[Charlie1]

Yep, the Kan II stands are quite a bit better. It is indeed sounding quite good now.

Thanks Tom!

[beck]

I think you hit the jackpot with your first setup yesterday of the Sara’s.....

[Charlie1]

OK, 😉

So who can name the Linn Records artist in the last clip without googling? Tony will defo know.

[ThomasOK]

OK, 😉

So who can name the Linn Records artist in the last clip without googling? Tony will defo know.

I'm tempted but I won't say.

[Spannko]

OK, 😉

So who can name the Linn Records artist in the last clip without googling? Tony will defo know.

John Strong. One of my favourite Linn albums along with Carol Kidd’s early stuff.

[Charlie1]

Winner winner chicken dinner

[Spannko]

Winner winner, chicken dinner

Wahoo. Get in!

[Charlie1]

I think it's pretty much there. The timing was fixed by bring them in 4cm in total but it was still a bit boring but pulling the speakers forward a bit seems to have fixed most of that. I think it's much closer now anyway.

Before: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b319toxemlmfg ... 7.mp4?dl=0

Now: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5rrinofzznl4 ... 1.mp4?dl=0

It's still sounding a bit soft and less punchy but could be mains, volume setting, amps warmed up more, or I dunno what.

One thing you probably all know but when playing loud I put my foot on the stand. They were vibrating like crazy so must chuck a lot of energy into them.

EDIT: this is a lot more fun so even if the new recording is a bit soft, in the room, it's really good. Thanks for spurring me on beck! There's a real skill in setting up systems. I think I would be pretty crap at it if I worked for a dealer, even though I can tell when it's really good, I would be forever kidding myself that I'm there. Plus I don't have enough patience.

[beck]

Great, just great! :-)

[Charlie1]

Cool - that's good to know.

A fav new order track is sounding quite a bit better than it did earlier this morning...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k8413tp9g4s5b ... 0.mp4?dl=0