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lejonklou wrote:
John wrote:It's a shame folks on this site have no interest in providing quality needle drop comparisons and instead have enthusiasm for poor sounding recordings made from phones and tablets.
There is a specific reason for our enthusiasm for the "poor sounding recordings": Their sole purpose is a comparison and our main focus is the musical qualities, not the nice sound. And in-room recordings often cut straight to the core of musicality, even when they sound bad.

I really enjoy high quality digital recordings of vinyl playback. But for comparing A with B and decide which is better, I don't find them any easier to judge than an in-room recording. In addition, in-room can be used for many more things, like speaker positioning, amplifier and cable comparisons, racks, room treatment, etc.
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The better the demonstration standards, the easier it is to hear the differences. Learned that long ago.
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John wrote:
lejonklou wrote:
John wrote:It's a shame folks on this site have no interest in providing quality needle drop comparisons and instead have enthusiasm for poor sounding recordings made from phones and tablets.
There is a specific reason for our enthusiasm for the "poor sounding recordings": Their sole purpose is a comparison and our main focus is the musical qualities, not the nice sound. And in-room recordings often cut straight to the core of musicality, even when they sound bad.

I really enjoy high quality digital recordings of vinyl playback. But for comparing A with B and decide which is better, I don't find them any easier to judge than an in-room recording. In addition, in-room can be used for many more things, like speaker positioning, amplifier and cable comparisons, racks, room treatment, etc.
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The better the demonstration standards, the easier it is to hear the differences. Learned that long ago.
I agree with Lejonklou because the focus here is on systems ability to play music (nothing else). We have done it for a long time with good results.
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In my experience sometimes a record that appears to have a bad mastering can be very useful for comparisons. On a weak system it will sound horrible whereas on a really good system it will actually sound musical. I think the same applies here and the in room recording system certainly does seem to work, allowing us to hear differences that aren't always that huge.
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Yes, and a before/after needle drop using that poorly mastered album will be easier to judge musical differences than a before/after iPhone recording of the same album.
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When I first tried the tranq I did not like it. I even emailed Roger and told him it wasn't working in my system. He made some suggestions regarding my installation and setup. I persevered and reset things getting the tranq as close to touching as possible and suddenly the music was back with the finer detail resolution included.
I believe that there may well be a sweet spot where the tranq / bearing / platter relationship seems to work and this may explain why so many folks are divided on this one. I have been running with Tranq for months now and my LP12 has never sounded so good. Just bought a renew KDSM and turntable still kicks it butt on well r corded material. If you dismissed the tranq on first hearing spend some time dialling it in and it may change your view. Or not it's all good :)
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finster wrote:When I first tried the tranq I did not like it. I even emailed Roger and told him it wasn't working in my system. He made some suggestions regarding my installation and setup. I persevered and reset things getting the tranq as close to touching as possible and suddenly the music was back with the finer detail resolution included.
I believe that there may well be a sweet spot where the tranq / bearing / platter relationship seems to work and this may explain why so many folks are divided on this one. I have been running with Tranq for months now and my LP12 has never sounded so good. Just bought a renew KDSM and turntable still kicks it butt on well r corded material. If you dismissed the tranq on first hearing spend some time dialling it in and it may change your view. Or not it's all good :)
I really like your post finster. The way forward for us all here and out in the real world is trying to understand each others view and keep communicating.
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beck wrote:I really like your post finster. The way forward for us all here and out in the real world is trying to understand each others view and keep communicating.
Yes, I very much agree.

I did have a proper listen today and, based on the clips, prefer the standard Linn setup.
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