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Matteo, do yourself a favour and buy some originals instead of the reissues. You'll be positively surprised!
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Tendaberry wrote: 2020-11-19 12:48 Matteo, do yourself a favour and buy some originals instead of the reissues. You'll be positively surprised!
Crazy prices, high shipping costs and a lot of VG+ or NM that are unlistenable (this is my very bad experience in the last months on Discogs).

I will never buy an used LP in my whole life.

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Tendaberry wrote: 2020-11-19 12:48 Matteo, do yourself a favour and buy some originals instead of the reissues. You'll be positively surprised!
A question about that, how would you find/buy the original issue for this album for instance?
https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello- ... se/8027148

Release year, sure, but there are 24 LP releases for 1981.
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Matteo wrote: 2020-11-19 13:53 Crazy prices, high shipping costs and a lot of VG+ or NM that are unlistenable (this is my very bad experience in the last months on Discogs). I will never buy an used LP in my whole life.
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OK, sorry that you have had such bad experiences. Trust and Get Happy can both be had in the original UK pressing for € 7,- in NM/NM...
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Lemmy wrote: 2020-11-19 15:13 A question about that, how would you find/buy the original issue for this album for instance?
https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello- ... se/8027148
Release year, sure, but there are 24 LP releases for 1981.
I would pick this one: https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello- ... se/1232997
or this one e.g. https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello- ... ase/387240
Back then, there were many releases, which can be considered originals, as they were pressed at different pressing plants.
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NM on Discogs is 90% garbage

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Sorry, but that's not my experience, nor that of my friends. Together we have bought about 1500 records in the past 2 years over Discogs.
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Tendaberry wrote: 2020-11-19 15:21
Lemmy wrote: 2020-11-19 15:13 A question about that, how would you find/buy the original issue for this album for instance?
https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello- ... se/8027148
Release year, sure, but there are 24 LP releases for 1981.
I would pick this one: https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello- ... se/1232997
or this one e.g. https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello- ... ase/387240
Back then, there were many releases, which can be considered originals, as they were pressed at different pressing plants.
OK, thanks. Why those two, are UK/US pressings considered particularly good?
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Lemmy wrote: 2020-11-19 18:16 OK, thanks. Why those two, are UK/US pressings considered particularly good?
Yes, I definitely think so. I'm very fond of US-pressings, but there are cases (like The Beatles), where the UK are better.
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Tendaberry wrote: 2020-11-19 18:22
Lemmy wrote: 2020-11-19 18:16 OK, thanks. Why those two, are UK/US pressings considered particularly good?
Yes, I definitely think so. I'm very fond of US-pressings, but there are cases (like The Beatles), where the UK are better.
What are actually the main theories for WHY this is the case?

I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but maybe a short recap?
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LP12/Kar/Tramp2/Kore/Akito/ARad/Adikt/Slips7-ADSM/3-A2200-M109
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'Hear, my Dear' is the best! It's on my top 10 of all time. Get an American original with a gatefold sleeve.

My experience with Discogs is positive, NM records are usually in great condition.
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I already own it and I’m listening to it right now!

And agree, the best MG album

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Matteo wrote: 2020-11-20 00:10 I already own it and I’m listening to it right now!

And agree, the best MG album

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Cool!

Then we are in agreement. What a groove on some of those songs! I have tuned a LOT of circuits with the help of that record.
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lejonklou wrote: 2020-11-20 00:38 Cool!

Then we are in agreement. What a groove on some of those songs! I have tuned a LOT of circuits with the help of that record.
Is That Enough ;-)
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Matteo wrote: 2020-11-20 10:34
lejonklou wrote: 2020-11-20 00:38 Cool!

Then we are in agreement. What a groove on some of those songs! I have tuned a LOT of circuits with the help of that record.
Is That Enough ;-)
Incredible.

And I have to add one thing:
I've often been impressed by the delicate interplay between the musicians on this record, but the main instrument is Marvin himself. When listening to 'You can leave, but it's going to cost you', with layer upon layer of Marvin's voice and the final rise at "So satisfied Baby, you have won the battle", it strikes me that the instruments could probably be removed, all of them, and the song would remain unaffected.

Here's a short piece about the record:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 82216.html
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OscarH wrote: 2020-11-19 19:24
Tendaberry wrote: 2020-11-19 18:22
Lemmy wrote: 2020-11-19 18:16 OK, thanks. Why those two, are UK/US pressings considered particularly good?
Yes, I definitely think so. I'm very fond of US-pressings, but there are cases (like The Beatles), where the UK are better.
What are actually the main theories for WHY this is the case?

I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but maybe a short recap?
Well, there have been speculations about the quality of the vinyl, but I don't think that's it. Even the thin, floppy RCA Dynaflex pressings from the early 70-s (oil crisis!) sound very good. The most believable theory might have to do with the 60 Hz frequency used in the US. I also like the Japanese and Canadian pressings, so I thought that might be an explanation. But I just discovered, that only Western Japan uses 60 Hz, whereas Eastern Japan uses 50 Hz.
If you have a better theory, I'd be happy to hear it. And always try to get an original pressing! I remember comparing the first and second pressing of Steely Dan's Aja recently. It was quite shocking how much worse the second pressing was.
As for The Beatles, the reason that the American pressings are worse than the UK ones is because Capitol often used third or fourth grade copies of the master tapes.
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lejonklou wrote: 2020-11-20 13:02 Here's a short piece about the record:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 82216.html
Interesting reading

Thanks

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About pressings… I have purchased a few records from the ’hardcore maniacs’ at better-records.com. They listen, and grade records sonically. And sell.

For example, I have recently been able to listen to Joni Mitchell's Blue sounding good for the first time. The price level at better-records is… fairly high though. Anyway it points out that it could be rewarding to look and listen very closely at a particular record.
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knoslean wrote: 2020-11-20 18:23 About pressings… I have purchased a few records from the ’hardcore maniacs’ at better-records.com. They listen, and grade records sonically. And sell.

For example, I have recently been able to listen to Joni Mitchell's Blue sounding good for the first time. The price level at better-records is… fairly high though. Anyway it points out that it could be rewarding to look and listen very closely at a particular record.
Wow, crazy prices! I think I paid something like $ 3-4,- for The Association's Insight Out with the golden WB label, here they want a hefty $ 149,99. But basically it's a good idea, though! What I don't like is, that you don't know exactly which pressing you are getting. Is it a Pitman, Jacksonville or Customatrix pressing???
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Reissues are the only way.

There isn’t a dogma.

Times are changed

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