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50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 08:38
by Ianw

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 09:38
by Charlie1
Great sales video and look back at Linn.

Not massively excited by the product itself but then I'm not in the market for a new Klimax LP12 anyway.

Karousel would have been the perfect 50th present (cost effective and available across the product range) but I'm sure owners are glad they got it as soon as possible and not now.

It's not a competition but Naim defo beat Linn and Rega on this one.

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 10:23
by Tendaberry
A few pics:
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Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 10:23
by Tendaberry
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Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 10:30
by Tendaberry
LP6.jpg
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New hinges machined from aluminium, the lid stays open in any position you want.

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 12:57
by Ianw

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 15:30
by Charlie1
50 grand!!!!!

So what, maybe 1% of LP12 owners can enjoy that :(

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 16:03
by Spannko
Charlie1 wrote: 2023-07-07 15:30 50 grand!!!!!

So what, maybe 1% of LP12 owners can enjoy that :(
I’m sure the Belgravia crowd will enjoy showing it to their friends together with their collection of sealed 45rpm half speed audiophile master series vinyls before getting bored and moving on to their watch collection.

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 16:10
by Charlie1
Would they even pick a Linn though - ptobably not 'showy' enough.

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 16:28
by Matteo
The tragicomic Linn's self-destruction saga continues ...

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 18:09
by lejonklou
Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t think the rounded power button, top plate and armboard look good on the LP12.

The plinth looks interesting, though.

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 18:33
by John
lejonklou wrote: 2023-07-07 18:09 Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t think the rounded power button, top plate and armboard look good on the LP12.

The plinth looks interesting, though.
The look differentiates it from any other LP12 and adds to making it a truly limited edition. I’m interested in seeing how the inside of the plinth is laid out.

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 18:58
by Charlie1
lejonklou wrote: 2023-07-07 18:09 Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t think the rounded power button, top plate and armboard look good on the LP12.
Top plate is basically the shape of an iPhone

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 20:01
by beck
Not for me……. I would buy a well cared for second hand Sondek from the early nineties and enjoy the music………………..

oh!………………… I got one myself. :-)

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 22:35
by John
Here’s a bit from Linn’s website regarding the new plinth:

“The sonic improvement comes by way of Linn’s all-new Bedrok™ plinth technology; formed of orthogonal layers of beech placed under extreme pressure to create an entirely new, solid and massive material. The consequent ultra-dense wood has negligible resonance and offers a superior isolating housing for the turntable’s mechanism.”


Not sure how this squares with ThomasOK’s thoughts regarding the most musical plinths:

“In the end the only reliable test for how good a plinth would sound compared to another plinth was the tap tone the plinths made when nothing was mounted to them. Over time I heard enough different plinth tap tones that I could give a pretty close ranking of how they would sound on the LP12 by the tap tone of the plinth. The plinths that were the most musical had a tap tone that sounded very harmonic, with a good spread of frequencies and a little ring but not too much. A long ring would lead to a midrange forwardness. Plinths that had a dead tap tone sounded dead, those that had a hashy tap tone sounded hashy and frequency imbalances in the tap tone, like lack of bass or soft highs. carried through to the turntable when assembled. I was glad I found some indicator that worked but I would have been glad to just be able to go by some measurement. But that seems to be the way it works.”


I haven’t done a tap tone test on the new 50th Anniversary Linn plinth but from Linn’s description I would assume it would be in the dead sounding category.

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 22:53
by tokenbrit
I had the same thought, John. Not going to spend £50k/$60k to find out... Hope it sounds better than it looks.

Curious way to celebrate a 50th anniversary; like paying for your wife to get a facelift that doesn't suit her... :/

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-07 23:40
by Spannko
lejonklou wrote: 2023-07-07 18:09 Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t think the rounded power button, top plate and armboard look good on the LP12.

The plinth looks interesting, though.
The round corners of the arm board don’t work for me either. Neither does the rounded on one side SS top plate. The main problem is that Dieter Rams didn’t design anything which looked anything remotely like an LP12, so there was nothing for Jonny Ive to draw inspiration from.

The lid appears to be fixed semi permanently now too. I’d be concerned about vibration from the lid being more efficiently coupled to the plinth.

Orthogonal layers of beech compressed under pressure. So that’s beech plywood or a multiplex beech panel then?

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 00:51
by lejonklou
Panzerholz?

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 01:24
by John

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 01:41
by tpetsch
lejonklou wrote: 2023-07-07 18:09 Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t think the rounded power button, top plate and armboard look good on the LP12.

The plinth looks interesting, though.
$65,000 Interesting? ...OK, Seriously though, someone needs to explain to me how an LP12 can cost 65K?

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 07:51
by matthias
lejonklou wrote: 2023-07-08 00:51Panzerholz?
Yes, I think it is, named differently.
I am wondering about the sub chassis with rounded corners, maybe also Panzerholz?

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 09:06
by matss
Spannko wrote: 2023-07-07 23:40The main problem is that Dieter Rams didn’t design anything which looked anything remotely like an LP12, so there was nothing for Jonny Ive to draw inspiration from.
Maybe some resemblance?
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I agree that the LP12-50 has some nice touches and some quirks. Nothing that makes me want to part with my CH fluted ebony plinth besides the new hinges. Maybe ebony also share some properties with Panzerholz?

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 09:08
by Spannko
lejonklou wrote: 2023-07-08 00:51Panzerholz?
Possibly, although it could also be Festholz or a material made especially for piano pin blocks.

https://www.delignit.de/en/application ... all-plates

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 09:19
by Spannko
matss wrote: 2023-07-08 09:06

Maybe some resemblance?
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The rounded corners certainly look familiar. I wonder if Jonny Ive tried to convince Gilad to put a curve in the Ekos too?

Re: 50th Anniversary LP12

Posted: 2023-07-08 14:01
by matss
Spannko wrote: 2023-07-08 09:19I wonder if Jonny Ive tried to convince Gilad to put a curve in the Ekos too?
That would have been so cool!

I'm still in the hunt for a LVV to my Axis in our country house.