BSilviuLuc wrote: ↑2021-06-15 11:35 Guys,
For sure I don't want to raise flames or provoke hard feelings. Just assuming that my lp12 is perfectly set, it is possible that my rather old Revox B250 to "strangulate" the musical performance?
Borrowing an amplifier shouldn't be much of an hassle.
The dealer assures me and he swears that my turntable was perfectly set. He said that he used all the tools to align and set the tonearm like Kinky tool.
Of course, I'm not 100% sure that my turntable is perfectly set. But, again, assuming that is, I'm wondering if is possible that my amplifier "strangulate" the musical performance. Could it be the bottleneck in my system?
In the context of this forum - which is founded on source first, which makes a huge amount of sense for vinyl sources whichever way you look at it - it doesn't make sense that the Revox would be fine for the Rega and then instantly magically bad for the LP12.Tendaberry wrote: ↑2021-06-15 11:46 It's certainly possible, that the Revox holds the performance of your LP12 back. In your shoes I would definitely try to borrow a more musical amp, just to be sure.
Is the bounce perfect on your LP12?
Even though the Revox is not the best amplifier ever made, it should still be easily good enough to tell which vinyl source is the better, as well as telling the sort of magnitude of the differences between them.
Revox were not some mickey mouse company. They made good audio equipment.
I started my hi-fi life with a Creek CAS4040 amplifier. This has always been good enough to determine the type and magnitude of the differences between different turntables, arms and cartridges. If my humble ultra budget Creek is good enough there's an extremely high chance that your Revox will be good enough too.
Coming to think of it, I've never come across a situation ever, where the amplifier wasn't good enough to tell the type and magnitude of the differences between vinyl sources.
A big reason for that being that differences between vinyl sources are so fundamental to following the tune. Pitch accuracy, pitch stability, timbre, dynamics, clarity in terms of it sounding like real people playing a musical composition on real instruments together in a band or orchestra.
On the new vs used equipment thing, this is a debate that I've had with other people on other forums.Defender wrote: ↑2021-06-15 11:03 hey lindsay its obviously a nice balance to have someone who has a different opinion. But your recommendations have an issue you mostly compare new bought products (Linn Majik LP12) to used products for the reason of value for money. That is not a fair apples to apples comparison. You can either compare used products to each other or new products to each other.
In this case you have the opinion the new bought LP12 should be sold even though everyone else has the opinion that the LP12 is a musical and capable device.
I have the experience the LP12 performance can vary a lot depending on how good the setup was made and I think that is also the problem here.
I wouldnt recommend to try a new amp I would rather first try to improve the LP12 setup. There is lots of information here in this forum. As a turntable owner without a capable dealer close buy it is important to somehow develop own skills. An investment into a Linn jig is not much more than a pair of Linn interconnects but can change your LP12 experience completely. Some other tools are cheap on Amazon or Ebay like a Linn Tonarm alignment tool or a tonarm hight tool.
The way that I see it is that hi-fi equipment is so reliable and so long lasting that it isn't like buying a used car.
Also turntables and speakers are simple and easy to repair devices.
And that whether an item is new or not is relatively unimportant compared to how much it costs to get it and how it sounds. With additional considerations for many buyers (but not me) on how big it is and how it looks.
I see it as entirely fair game if one enthusiast has decide to buy new equipment and another comes along with stuff that anyone could have bought for similar money off the Internet to compare against it. With the foundation of that bake-off being how much each of them paid and how it sounds.
If the new stuff wins the bake-off then that indicates one buying route. If the used stuff wins then that's another route.