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I have to say that I have always found Spotify the most musical. However, the sound was much worse than Qobuz, so I couldn't resist the better sound. That's no longer the case. Spotify is now very good in terms of sound and music. It is now the first time that I am quite satisfied with digital. Especially after I made the following arrangement:
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The daisy chain arrangement with the Cisco adds a touch of "Naim" to the sound, which I like very much, with no loss of musicality.
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Eli7 wrote: 2021-05-31 17:23 Spotify is now very good in terms of sound and music. It is now the first time that I am quite satisfied with digital.
Agreed - there has been quite a big step change with Spotify over the last year, and I find myself listening more to digital than I have ever done before.

I am sure there must be a lot more to come in terms of musicality, with digital.
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Eli7 wrote: 2021-05-31 17:23 I have to say that I have always found Spotify the most musical. However, the sound was much worse than Qobuz, so I couldn't resist the better sound. That's no longer the case. Spotify is now very good in terms of sound and music. It is now the first time that I am quite satisfied with digital. Especially after I made the following arrangement:
Router > BJC 2.7m Cat 6a > Cisco Switch 2960 > BJC 10m Cat 6a > Netgear GS 108T-200 > BJC 2.7m Cat 6a > MDSM3.
The daisy chain arrangement with the Cisco adds a touch of "Naim" to the sound, which I like very much, with no loss of musicality.
So you're recommending adding an extra switch,and how does Spotify compare with plugging MDSM3 straight into your router?Any chance of some clips ,I'm intrigued about how you managed to create a Naim sound with your setup.
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Lego wrote: 2021-06-01 10:17
Eli7 wrote: 2021-05-31 17:23 I have to say that I have always found Spotify the most musical. However, the sound was much worse than Qobuz, so I couldn't resist the better sound. That's no longer the case. Spotify is now very good in terms of sound and music. It is now the first time that I am quite satisfied with digital. Especially after I made the following arrangement:
Router > BJC 2.7m Cat 6a > Cisco Switch 2960 > BJC 10m Cat 6a > Netgear GS 108T-200 > BJC 2.7m Cat 6a > MDSM3.
The daisy chain arrangement with the Cisco adds a touch of "Naim" to the sound, which I like very much, with no loss of musicality.
So you're recommending adding an extra switch,and how does Spotify compare with plugging MDSM3 straight into your router?Any chance of some clips ,I'm intrigued about how you managed to create a Naim sound with your setup.
Mentioning the Daisy Chain arrangement was a side note, not a recommendation. I have lived with Naim for a long time. The sound now reminds me a little of Naim. I like it that way.
The Cisco, by the way, is very popular with the Naimies.
Spotify without a switch I like less.
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u252agz wrote: 2021-06-01 08:51
Eli7 wrote: 2021-05-31 17:23 Spotify is now very good in terms of sound and music. It is now the first time that I am quite satisfied with digital.
Agreed - there has been quite a big step change with Spotify over the last year, and I find myself listening more to digital than I have ever done before.

I am sure there must be a lot more to come in terms of musicality, with digital.
Which are the best settings for Spotify?

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Matteo wrote: 2021-06-07 11:30
u252agz wrote: 2021-06-01 08:51
Eli7 wrote: 2021-05-31 17:23 Spotify is now very good in terms of sound and music. It is now the first time that I am quite satisfied with digital.
Agreed - there has been quite a big step change with Spotify over the last year, and I find myself listening more to digital than I have ever done before.

I am sure there must be a lot more to come in terms of musicality, with digital.
Which are the best settings for Spotify?

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John wrote: 2021-06-07 13:23 Disable Normalization
Audio Quality- Very High
.......and disable "Auto adjust quality" and use the desktop app (not the web player). I have only "Explicit content" enabled, all other settings are disabled.

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matthias wrote: 2021-06-07 16:40
John wrote: 2021-06-07 13:23 Disable Normalization
Audio Quality- Very High
.......and disable "Auto adjust quality" and use only the desktop app (not the web player). I have only "Explicit content" enabled, all other settings are disabled.

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Lego wrote: 2021-06-08 22:15 How about the mobile App Matt?
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so far no experiences with...

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matthias wrote: 2021-06-09 06:38
Lego wrote: 2021-06-08 22:15 How about the mobile App Matt?
Lego,
so far no experiences with...

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If I couldn’t have streamed via my iPhone or iPad, I likely wouldn’t have started.
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There are multiple reports so far that Apple Music sends lossless tracks as lossy AAC files via AirPlay.

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Today I updated to the latest Spotify version (1.1.61.583). I have the impression it is even more musical.

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matthias wrote: 2021-06-10 17:32 Today I updated to the latest Spotify version (1.1.61.583). I have the impression it is even more musical.
New version today but not yet HiFi: 1.1.62.583
Did anyone compare it to the former one?

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matthias wrote: 2021-06-24 20:34
matthias wrote: 2021-06-10 17:32 Today I updated to the latest Spotify version (1.1.61.583). I have the impression it is even more musical.
New version today but not yet HiFi: 1.1.62.583
Did anyone compare it to the former one?

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Hi Matt, what resolution is displayed in Kazoo?
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Eli7 wrote: 2021-06-25 15:50Hi Matt, what resolution is displayed in Kazoo?
I am on MacBook Pro/Spotify desktop app into USB DAC so only streaming quality "very high".
I suppose if they provide redbook they would display something like "HiFi" or "lossless".

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matthias wrote: 2021-06-25 16:20
Eli7 wrote: 2021-06-25 15:50Hi Matt, what resolution is displayed in Kazoo?
I am on MacBook Pro/Spotify desktop app into USB DAC so only streaming quality "very high".

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Ahh, ok. In Kazoo, CD resolution is displayed. But I'm not sure if that's right. How can I check this?
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Eli7 wrote: 2021-06-25 16:37 How can I check this?
You could try Spotify Connect with your DS.

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matthias wrote: 2021-06-25 17:22
Eli7 wrote: 2021-06-25 16:37 How can I check this?
You could try Spotify Connect with your DS.

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I use Spotify Connect and when I open Kazoo it shows CD resolution.
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Eli7 wrote: 2021-06-25 17:32 I use Spotify Connect and when I open Kazoo it shows CD resolution.
What does display your Spotify app?

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matthias wrote: 2021-06-25 18:02
Eli7 wrote: 2021-06-25 17:32 I use Spotify Connect and when I open Kazoo it shows CD resolution.
What does display your Spotify app?

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Where do I look? I haven't found anything.
I have set the streaming quality to very high and everything else is switched off.
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Eli7 wrote: 2021-06-25 20:04 I have set the streaming quality to very high and everything else is switched off.
Same did I.
The situation is undisclosed.
Maybe Spotify granted you to be beta tester for HIFi and Kazoo is right or you have Spotify Ogg Vorbis lossy.
My bet is that Spotify HiFi will not be launched before the end of September.

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Anyone tried Apple Music and compared it to Spotify?

Apple music is now Losless streaming and Many more intresting features, specially Apple products. I purhaced AirPods Pro Max Headphones and interest to try Apple Music with these. I found Spotify on iPhone to Airpods sounds wonderfully musical and hands down best noise canceling headphones that i’ve heard.
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Spotify sounds better than Apple Music, even though the latter streams lossless. Quite a bit better, actually.

I agree that Airpods Pro Max are pretty good!
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