M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

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M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by linnlover » 2019-11-13 07:36

Hi all

My current set up:

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Akurate Exaktbok
2 x M6100
M140 with upgrade base
M126 with exakt sub module

I have the chance to upgrade to a pair of Akudoriks passive with stands to replace my M140's
Planning a home demo in my living room which is rectangular and roughly 7 mt x 4. Speakers positionen at the edge on the 7 mt side

Has anyone being in my shoes? Opinions?
Thanks!

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by David Neel » 2019-11-13 10:15

Hmmm.....

I used to have 109s, and my dealer was selling a pair of passive Akubariks. I was very tempted indeed, so I went along to listen, taking my amplifiers with me. They were such an improvement I was mentally writing the cheque after five minutes. So I expect that your demo will be similarly impressive, maybe more so as stand-mounts often have the edge musically.

But - source first! What about your DSM and amplifiers? How much improvement could you find there? In theory, that will be be more beneficial musically.

What other speakers could you consider? 140s and Akubariks are both four-way, which will make any power-amp or exaktbox upgrade expensive. This was irrelevant to me (I'm no longer interested in active or exakt), but not to you. I didn't buy the Akubariks, not because they were five-way, but because I heard something else at half the price which I much preferred. And finally, if you do chose Akudoriks, there are much better stands to be had than the Linn ones.
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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by Spannko » 2019-11-13 11:24

Your question is a bit broad. Is there anything in particular you’d like to know?

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by Tendaberry » 2019-11-13 11:49

The Akudoriks will no doubt be a lot better, that much is clear. BUT, if the Exaktbox doesn't yet have Katalyst, that would be my first upgrade. At the moment you have too many channels in your power amps, even changing them for 2 x 4100 would be a nice upgrade. 2 x 4200 even more so.

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by sunbeamgls » 2019-11-13 13:18

The advice about Exaktbox Katalyst and source first is good.

But, if you like the Akudoriks and the price is very good, don't hesitate to buy them with the future upgrade of the Exaktbox in mind. Sometimes following source first is not a practical solution if the right opportunity comes up to get there in a slightly different order :)
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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by Charlie1 » 2019-11-13 13:54

Good point, don't see many Doriks for sale.

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by linnlover » 2019-11-13 13:56

Yes the exaktbox is katalyst. This is why I believe the upgrade to akudoriks is a logical step
regarding my 6100's
8 channels used for the 140/akudorik
3 for my activ centre speaker for the AV part
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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by u252agz » 2019-11-13 18:03

sunbeamgls wrote:
2019-11-13 13:18
The advice about Exaktbox Katalyst and source first is good.

But, if you like the Akudoriks and the price is very good, don't hesitate to buy them with the future upgrade of the Exaktbox in mind. Sometimes following source first is not a practical solution if the right opportunity comes up to get there in a slightly different order :)
I agree - try them at home and if you like the results buy them and leave other upgrades for later.

As they are being discontinued by Linn - you should get a good price for what is regarded as a very musical speaker.

I did this with demo 242s and never regretted it - as upstream components got better - so did the music.
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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by linnlover » 2019-11-13 18:22

Thanks
Actually other upgrades that I can think of are very expensive

Akurate DSM to Klimax DSM?
Akurate Exaktbox (10) to 2 Klimax Exaktbox?
2 M6100 to 4200?

the akudoriks are 1 year old at with a good 50+% discount from list price

I'm more and more convinced that is not only a logical step but also a convenient, moneywisw, one.

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by Tendaberry » 2019-11-13 18:37

Since you already have Katalyst in the Exaktbox, I would also be very tempted to get the Akudoriks at that good price. I think they might be even more scarce in the future.
Well, actually you don't need a KDSM. Since you have Exakt, a Klimax System Hub will do, that saves you a nice GBP 6.600,-

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by Spannko » 2019-11-13 20:00

Tendaberry wrote:
2019-11-13 18:37
Since you already have Katalyst in the Exaktbox, I would also be very tempted to get the Akudoriks at that good price. I think they might be even more scarce in the future.
Well, actually you don't need a KDSM. Since you have Exakt, a Klimax System Hub will do, that saves you a nice GBP 6.600,-
Yep, go for it!

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by ThomasOK » 2019-11-13 20:47

Spannko wrote:
2019-11-13 20:00
Tendaberry wrote:
2019-11-13 18:37
Since you already have Katalyst in the Exaktbox, I would also be very tempted to get the Akudoriks at that good price. I think they might be even more scarce in the future.
Well, actually you don't need a KDSM. Since you have Exakt, a Klimax System Hub will do, that saves you a nice GBP 6.600,-
Yep, go for it!
Yes, it sounds like a sensible step to me, and a way to get a fine product that is going away.
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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by sunbeamgls » 2019-11-13 22:57

Whilst Klimax Exaktbox/1 is very impressive, I don't think it adds much, if anything, musically, over an Akurate Exaktbox6/1. Comparison with Akurate Exaktbox10/1 will be a slightly larger difference but not huge.
If it were my system I'd consider 4x stereo Tundras (in comparison to alternatives of course) as the next step after Akudoriks :)
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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by maffe » 2019-11-14 13:42

Have nothing bad to say about akudorik, had my pair for 3 years (I think).
If you have the possibility to try them passive, single amp preferably tundra monos;) and compare to exakt you should give that a try!

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by Øyvind I » 2019-11-14 19:38

Friendly warning: it’s going to cost more ;-)
I did a similar swap from AEDSM with Majik Exaktbox I an Majik Isobarik 2 years ago to
Akubarik as it was a great ex- demo deal

First I had to run it with MDSM/2 + M6100. Horrible in comparison with my previous system
The AEDSM Akurate Kat and 2xM6100. Better but still not music like with old system
Then 2xA4200 + M6100 (on super tweeter). Getting there
Swapped order of amps with M6100 now on the bass. A lot better and approaching to be good.
Last: Added Blue Jeans Cables. Nice
Icing of the cake: mate of mine torqued up the front bass drivers - which apparently had never been fastened after transport.

My system now sounds fantastic but Akurate level amps are in my experience needed.

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by u252agz » 2019-11-14 22:08

Try them before you buy them - at home with your existing system.

The last thing you want is to buy a great musical speaker ( even at a bargain price) and then find that you are forced to start upgrading expensive items before you are ready.

If funds and time are not an issue - no big deal - but it might be an unpleasant experience if you are pushed into further upgrades without having the time and peace of mind to enjoy this one.

I was advised to upgrade to a Klimax DS/ from Renew DS/0, speaker cables to K400 and interconnects to Silver before getting my 242s., as they are quite demanding of upstream components compared to my Ninkas.
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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by linnlover » 2019-11-15 18:39

So I have the Akudoriks at home for testing. 
A fast switch of cables, change settings in Konfig and off we go.

I was concerned by the much smaller size compared to my M140's I have to admit that as a matter of fact there is much more clarity in the sound, I guess thanks to the 3k. Bass are balanced and the sub kicks in (more compared to the M140) when needed.

Boy how amazingly well a Linn HiFi plays. 

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by Charlie1 » 2019-11-15 20:31

Glad u like them!

I found the 140 bass was never quite in sync until I had Tundra 2.5. Maybe aktiv is OK but I'm sure Doriks will not have that issue based on my experience hearing them a couple of times.

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Re: M140 to Akudorik upgrade advise

Post by mrco99 » 2019-11-15 23:20

Congratulations on your purchase.
You will be enjoying these for quite some time.

Should you consider any further upgrades or system changes after this I'd encourage having a listen to them in their passive configuration with a stereo Tundra 2.5.

Very curious what you'd think of it!
Although I never took the plunge to any Exakt system I was very impressed when I reverted to a passive system - having played with active Linn systems for more than 20 years.
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