I'm using a rear corner 345 sub with my 350A speakers and due to its location, it actually partially counters the length modes (so my L1 and L2 can be dropped by a few dB compared to the system with no sub) so I'm hoping that they soon add subs to the modelling as at the moment, there are some dips that will be too deep (and I can detect - by ear - that's what is now happening) though it still sounds very good.mcgillroy wrote:No shelves is a major drawback. I too integrate my sub via a bass shelve and tame some shoutiness via a custom filter at 2.5k.
Linn wants to be the Apple of audio and abstract as much complexity as possible away. But not sure if that squares well with this market.
Interesting point about the bass shelf. I asked Phil Budd whether the active crossover card's bass extension tweak (eg for 212's and Ninkas) could be emulated - for passive models - via a bass shelf. He suggested where to start and yes, it made for a nice improvement to my bedroom 212 system.
More recently, I procured a Sizmik for the bedroom (and now run the 212s with their ports blocked and with them wired out of phase with respect to the sub and no bass shelf) and recently, I dropped the sub level by 1 dB and added a 1 dB bass shelf which - when suitably tweaked - made quite a nice change to the sound (punchier bass - the 212 bass units doing more of the work - and more critically than that, much better sounding voices) so I hope both the sub modelling and bass shelf features will be added as soon as possible.
As to the sound of it overall, I spent a lot of time (and that is the understatement of the decade) both taking lots and lots of measurements and performing lots and lots of listening to get the results that I had achieved with the first generation SO. This one only took about 2 hours to get the room dimensions entered (though you can now add a few more as I'm on my 4th iteration of the room dimension assumptions) and it actually sounds pretty close to what I'd previously achieved with the Konfig dips (and some fancy hacked in ones, but I'll not expand on that here) and in some ways, certain aspects of the sound are actually better than what I'm used to hearing, so clearly Linn have performed a very significant body of work.
incidentally, on my old custom dip profile I also had a few wide and shallow ones above 80 Hz and whilst I could live without them, it is a shame that there's no plan to reintroduce custom dips in future versions. That said - and this is quite interesting - the absence of my custom ones is now far less irritating (in fact, it's pretty acceptable) than it was with the older custom dip profile, so I wonder if Linn's new SO has tackled something lower down that exacerbated these higher modes, or whether they might even have extended SO to cover frequencies slightly higher than 80 Hz (the one thing notable about this new version is that we have no idea of exactly what it is and isn't actually doing).
I still plan to upload my lounge SO2 profile to a spare Sneaky that I have (scheduled for my kitchen system) then stick it on the bench and sweep it to see what the differences are between my old and this new profile (not that it's relevant to anything, but just because I am so darned curious about all such things) but sadly, other work - the sort that puts food on the table - takes precedence, at the moment.