Just simple math :)Jumanji wrote: LP23?
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LP12 mkII = LP12 +1 = LP 1+1, 2+1 = LP23
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Just simple math :)Jumanji wrote: LP23?
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Yes. This means it can be used as a USB DAC too, if you'd like to use it in conjunction with external USB source (PC/Mac or some specialized device like Aurender).Donald wrote: Also a strange looking USB IN socket?
That'll cut off the market for those customers who just want a Linn DS as their digital streaming source in an otherwise non-Linn system (or still sticking with their Kontrol). Perhaps it wasn't that big a market anyway, but it looks like it's "our way, or the highway"From 1st October 2018, the line-up will purely comprise the DSM models (now Majik DSM, Selekt DSM, Akurate DSM and Klimax DSM) that were introduced in 2011 and added a preamp section with digital and analogue connections to the original (and soon-to-be ditched) DS models.
Looking forward to hearing it!!!Jumanji wrote:
LP23?
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Not exactly, given that the Selekt comes in four versions, with or without power amplification and Katalyst (that'll give us lots of fun with nomenclature when we get the Linn forum back). As regards use of a separate pre-amplifier, that ship sailed when LInn discontinued the Klimax Kontrol in 2015.Music at Home wrote:That'll cut off the market for those customers who just want a Linn DS as their digital streaming source in an otherwise non-Linn system (or still sticking with their Kontrol). Perhaps it wasn't that big a market anyway, but it looks like it's "our way, or the highway"
My comment was in response to the announcement to discontinue the DS range and only sell DSM's, rather than anything Selekt specific. Many customers are happy, or even prefer, maintaining separate sources and pre-amp.DavidHB wrote:Not exactly, given that the Selekt comes in four versions, with or without power amplification and Katalyst (that'll give us lots of fun with nomenclature when we get the Linn forum back).Music at Home wrote:That'll cut off the market for those customers who just want a Linn DS as their digital streaming source in an otherwise non-Linn system (or still sticking with their Kontrol). Perhaps it wasn't that big a market anyway, but it looks like it's "our way, or the highway"
Well, not everyone got on-boardAs regards use of a separate pre-amplifier, that ship sailed when LInn discontinued the Klimax Kontrol in 2015.
... and, as I said earlier, the Klimax DS sounds (did sound?) better to me than the Klimax DSM.Music at Home wrote:My comment was in response to the announcement to discontinue the DS range and only sell DSM's, rather than anything Selekt specific.DavidHB wrote:Not exactly, given that the Selekt comes in four versions, with or without power amplification and Katalyst (that'll give us lots of fun with nomenclature when we get the Linn forum back).Music at Home wrote:That'll cut off the market for those customers who just want a Linn DS as their digital streaming source in an otherwise non-Linn system (or still sticking with their Kontrol). Perhaps it wasn't that big a market anyway, but it looks like it's "our way, or the highway"
Well, not everyone got on-boardAs regards use of a separate pre-amplifier, that ship sailed when LInn discontinued the Klimax Kontrol in 2015.
Yes, got that now, having read the initial What HiFi piece.Donald wrote:David, for your study you can have: -
Selekt DSM£4,000
Selekt DSM w/ integrated power amp £5,250
Selekt DSM w/ Katalyst £5,500
Selekt DSM w/ integrated amp and Katalyst £6,750
Its great that Linn will finally offer surround decoding again, but I hope the supported audio formats is a typo. Where are Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD? Why would I only want ancient poorer quality decoding?Music at Home wrote:https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/linn-selekt-dsmNext year Linn will also make a headphone amplifier module, and those with an amplified Selekt DSM will have the choice to add a surround sound module with 5.1 speaker terminals, 4 HDMI inputs, 1 HDMI output and support for DTS and Dolby Digital Plus audio formats. The ‘coming soon’ list for 2019 also includes Bluetooth and wi-fi (2.4GHz/5GHz) support.
So they do. My point was that Selekt can be seen as part of a trend that Linn have been pursuing for some time, in which the streamer so to speak 'absorbs' the pre-amplifier. That trend is is itself closely related to the tendency to handle in the digital domain parts of the signal chain that were formerly analogue only, a process that started as long ago as 2012 with the Kiko. Obviously, the change is not universally beloved - though I am very happy with my 'mixed economy' Exakt system - but with products such as the Urika II, Linn have firmly committed themselves to that pathMusic at Home wrote:My comment was in response to the announcement to discontinue the DS range and only sell DSM's, rather than anything Selekt specific. Many customers are happy, or even prefer, maintaining separate sources and pre-amp.
Nor they did, any more than when Linn stopped making CD players in 2009. Like any company, Linn has to choose which options it offers. Inevitably, some people will feel that it got some or all of those decisions wrong. Linn are still in business, so presumably they know by now which hits they can sensibly take.Music at Home wrote:Well, not everyone got on-board
A bunch of us all heard the same thing at our 'Premier Inn Squad' factory visit last year (where both were used with DVC enabled and directly driving an analogue system); on the tune that they chose to use for that brief comparison, the magnitude of the difference was - to my ears - actually a little bit surprising.macrotech2 wrote: ... and, as I said earlier, the Klimax DS sounds (did sound?) better to me than the Klimax DSM.
Not seen anything yet but today I did get notification of new filters for Exakt 350's in KonfigMoomintroll wrote:I assume that the new, web based, SO will become available in October and not before? Certainly no sign of it today.
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Sounds more like the current DSM software that only accepts decoded surround, the argument being that decoding adds specialist chips that quickly become obsolete and add licensing costs. I doubt another Kisto is hoving into view (and if it is then I sincerely hope Linn have someone left to turn off the lights)macrotech2 wrote:Its great that Linn will finally offer surround decoding again, but I hope the supported audio formats is a typo. Where are Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD? Why would I only want ancient poorer quality decoding?Music at Home wrote:https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/linn-selekt-dsmNext year Linn will also make a headphone amplifier module, and those with an amplified Selekt DSM will have the choice to add a surround sound module with 5.1 speaker terminals, 4 HDMI inputs, 1 HDMI output and support for DTS and Dolby Digital Plus audio formats. The ‘coming soon’ list for 2019 also includes Bluetooth and wi-fi (2.4GHz/5GHz) support.
Yes upgrades available, but not ds to dsmmrco99 wrote:A sad day for all (digital) 'source first' adopters. No more of these from Linn.
With the Majik DS, Akurate DS and Klimax DS being dropped from the range, will the Katalyst upgrade for existing owners of an ADS and KDS remain possible?
Interesting. I’ll have another look later. There was nothing for mine when I looked mid afternoon.Dobie wrote:Not seen anything yet but today I did get notification of new filters for Exakt 350's in KonfigMoomintroll wrote:I assume that the new, web based, SO will become available in October and not before? Certainly no sign of it today.
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anthony wrote:Yes upgrades available, but not ds to dsmmrco99 wrote:A sad day for all (digital) 'source first' adopters. No more of these from Linn.
With the Majik DS, Akurate DS and Klimax DS being dropped from the range, will the Katalyst upgrade for existing owners of an ADS and KDS remain possible?