John wrote: ↑2021-11-10 19:01 Moved files to Dropbox.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ikczdujq4zfxg/A.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q35g1esjwnu86cc/B.mov?dl=0

Thank you for going to all that trouble, John. I agree with tokenbrit and Thomas that B is the better of the two musically. The rhythmic interplay of the percussion is much easier to understand - if I was back in conservatory doing listening tests and having to write out what I heard in musical notation, I could only hope for a system this revealing! - and I had a clear sense of how the trumpet player maintained his breath energy while he shaped the phrases.

Musically compelling stuff!

John wrote: ↑2021-11-10 19:01 Moved files to Dropbox.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ikczdujq4zfxg/A.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q35g1esjwnu86cc/B.mov?dl=0

I prefer the B-movie as well ;-) The rhythm sounded clumsy and uninspired on a.

One more vote for B.

David Neel wrote: ↑2021-11-11 13:38 One more vote for B.

+1

Matt

Thanks for all who are taking the time to listen. I’m not sure how this works as far as to when to reveal more details. I would hate to ruin it for those who haven’t had a chance to listen. I kind of put them out late in the day yesterday GMT, so maybe should wait a bit longer.

John wrote: ↑2021-11-10 19:01 Moved files to Dropbox.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ikczdujq4zfxg/A.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q35g1esjwnu86cc/B.mov?dl=0

My guess is that the top clip has an analog source (Sondek) and the bottom clip a digital source.... :-)

John wrote: ↑2021-11-11 14:11 Thanks for all who are taking the time to listen. I’m not sure how this works as far as to when to reveal more details. I would hate to ruin it for those who haven’t had a chance to listen. I kind of put them out late in the day yesterday GMT, so maybe should wait a bit longer.

I found these recordings difficult to judge because I struggled to predict the notes - that's a reflection on my unfamiliarity with the music rather than the quality. If I played it at 4x speed I might have more of a chance :)

I have a tonal preference for B (breathiness less distracting, base tones more harmonic), but I would not be able to apply my understanding of the tune method to these clips.

Having fun. For this, same source for each.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rbeixzrpaux5w9u/AA.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0oy6rj0cv54ploh/BB.mov?dl=0

John wrote: ↑2021-11-11 16:28 Having fun. For this, same source for each.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rbeixzrpaux5w9u/AA.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0oy6rj0cv54ploh/BB.mov?dl=0

I found it easy to predict the notes for BB, but forgot to do that on AA as I got swept away by the music. I think that means I prefer AA

AA! That “kerrang” of the guitar on the beginning power cords was a whole ‘nuther deal with AA. Killer.

John wrote: ↑2021-11-10 17:19 So based on the prior set of recordings by Thomas and a purchase spurred by Herman of this forum, I decided to give this a go with a more current ECM recording by Nils Petter Molvaer “Khmer”.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ikczdujq4zfxg/A.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q35g1esjwnu86cc/B.mov?dl=0

Thanks to all who shared their thoughts. I greatly appreciate your comments.

“A” was Spotify Premium streamed from the Sonos app on my 7th gen iPad to a Sonos Amp driving Tannoy DMT 15’s.

“B” was a LP12, Exposure 13 Phono preamp, Exposure 19 line preamp for the front end. The tape output on the preamp is connected to the Sonos Amp upstairs.

AAgree with '64 & '62 :)

John wrote: ↑2021-11-11 22:20

John wrote: ↑2021-11-10 17:19 So based on the prior set of recordings by Thomas and a purchase spurred by Herman of this forum, I decided to give this a go with a more current ECM recording by Nils Petter Molvaer “Khmer”.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ikczdujq4zfxg/A.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q35g1esjwnu86cc/B.mov?dl=0

Thanks to all who shared their thoughts. I greatly appreciate your comments.

“A” was Spotify Premium streamed from the Sonos app on my 7th gen iPad to a Sonos Amp driving Tannoy DMT 15’s.

“B” was a LP12, Exposure 13 Phono preamp, Exposure 19 line preamp for the front end. The tape output on the preamp is connected to the Sonos Amp upstairs.

With the usual caveats of judging hifi by internet clips, John your LP12 is one of the best I’ve ever heard! I could never get mine to sing that well. Kudos

tokenbrit wrote: ↑2021-11-12 15:13 AAgree with '64 & '62 :)

I also prefer AA although BB looks to be better planted to me.

ThomasOK wrote: ↑2021-11-12 19:02 I also prefer AA although BB looks to be better planted to me.

BB remained earthbound; AA just took off... ?

Once again, thanks for listening and the kind remarks.

The source was the LP12 on both.

“AA” is my all analog rig in the basement including an Exposure 18S power amp and Tannoy System 1000 studio monitors.

“BB” is tape output on Exposure 19 preamp, with a 65 foot interconnect to the Sonos Amp upstairs with Tannoy DMT 15 monitors.

John wrote: ↑2021-11-12 21:38 Once again, thanks for listening and the kind remarks.

The source was the LP12 on both.

“AA” is my all analog rig in the basement including an Exposure 18S power amp and Tannoy System 1000 studio monitors...

Another one using monitors, not unlike the JBLs thread... Sensing a theme and a direct connection* to the music :)

* unintended as a comment on your 65' interconnect :D

tokenbrit wrote:
Another one using monitors, not unlike the JBLs thread... Sensing a theme and a direct connection* to the music :)

* unintended as a comment on your 65' interconnect :D

“Direct connection” applies to all cable lengths under 20 meters ;-)

tokenbrit wrote: ↑2021-11-13 14:54

John wrote: ↑2021-11-12 21:38 Once again, thanks for listening and the kind remarks.

The source was the LP12 on both.

“AA” is my all analog rig in the basement including an Exposure 18S power amp and Tannoy System 1000 studio monitors...

Another one using monitors, not unlike the JBLs thread... Sensing a theme and a direct connection* to the music :)

* unintended as a comment on your 65' interconnect :D

I liked the Tannoys in John's system. They used to be built in Coatbridge, not far from me. There does seem to be a change in the way that some monitors are viewed on the forum. Until the JBL monitors appeared on the forum my recollection is of monitors being viewed as lacking musicality. Opinions change and that's healthy.

My 308 MK1s should arrive on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to hearing them :)

Scooter62 wrote: ↑2021-11-13 20:08 “Direct connection” applies to all cable lengths under 20 meters ;-)

I don't know; that seems like a bit of a stretch... ;)

FairPlayMotty wrote: ↑2021-11-13 20:47 I liked the Tannoys in John's system... Until the JBL monitors appeared on the forum my recollection is of monitors being viewed as lacking musicality. Opinions change and that's healthy.

My 308 MK1s should arrive on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to hearing them :)

That did seem to be the perception, but this forum is quite open minded, for the most part... I'm sure there are a few here looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the 308 MK1s.

Clip 1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhiotqwbffg1e ... 4.mov?dl=0

lets make it a comparison - which clip sounds more musical?

Clip 2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/cnqij7g9z1hfc ... 1.mov?dl=0

Defender wrote: ↑2021-11-17 15:29 https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhiotqwbffg1e ... 4.mov?dl=0

Great Defender, really nice system and especially music.

I prefer clip 2.

Peter

Defender wrote: ↑2021-11-17 15:29 Clip 1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhiotqwbffg1e ... 4.mov?dl=0

lets make it a comparison - which clip sounds more musical?

Clip 2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/cnqij7g9z1hfc ... 1.mov?dl=0

The piano is so much better in the second one. And the guitar! The melody sounds much more effortless.