Playground for practical listening exercises

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I prefer A.
B starts out nice but as it goes along I notice it's lacking energy.
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Yep A sounds easier to me and fun to follow.
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Hermann wrote: 2023-03-02 13:42 Yep A sounds easier to me and fun to follow.
That is a great expression Hermann.

That is something I would like my system to “communicate”. :-)
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I prefer A too without knowing what others have picked
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Thank you for listening and posting Whatsmynaim, Hermann and Charlie1. :-)

Setup A) has been in use and I am now trying out a new setup C). More will follow………
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I'm not sure. They seem very close to my ears. I enjoyed X a little more to begin with but at around 30 secs, I started to slightly prefer Y. So I'm on the fence.

I think the most enjoyable music I've heard from a CD clip and really good for digital of any kind.
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Charlie1 wrote: 2023-03-06 09:55 I'm not sure. They seem very close to my ears. I enjoyed X a little more to begin with but at around 30 secs, I started to slightly prefer Y. So I'm on the fence.

I think the most enjoyable music I've heard from a CD clip and really good for digital of any kind.
Here is a second set to compare.

X2) https://www.dropbox.com/s/kp1e8thnigmpu ... 0.mov?dl=0

Y2) https://www.dropbox.com/s/uw2g8uo5e32g6 ... 1.mov?dl=0
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That's helpful actually. I'm guessing X2 is your previous setup and Y2 is something new.

Y2 defo does the Hi-Fi stuff better and is more impactful, perhaps more compelling as well. For me, X2 might have a slight timing edge in terms of bringing the music together but personally I'd live with Y2 for a bit and then go back to X2 to check.

I think what's interesting is that they are both really good - just different.

I don't know what you're trying - is there a setting between X and Y that we could hear?
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Charlie1 wrote: 2023-03-06 10:56 That's helpful actually. I'm guessing X2 is your previous setup and Y2 is something new.

Y2 defo does the Hi-Fi stuff better and is more impactful, perhaps more compelling as well. For me, X2 might have a slight timing edge in terms of bringing the music together but personally I'd live with Y2 for a bit and then go back to X2 to check.

I think what's interesting is that they are both really good - just different.

I don't know what you're trying - is there a setting between X and Y that we could hear?
Y is actually my previous setup and X is my new setup.

There is not an obvious “inbetween” setup but then something might turn up. :-)
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I would stick with the new (X) setup for a while then and if you're unsure after a week, try going back.
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Charlie1 wrote: 2023-03-06 11:04 I would stick with the new (X) setup for a while then and if you're unsure after a week, try going back.
Thank you for listening Charlie1. That is what I am going to do! :-)
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I think you've actually nailed it there with X, listening again, but would be good to know how you get on. I think Y is just more impressive, in a bad way.
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Charlie1 wrote: 2023-03-06 11:06 I think you've actually nailed it there with X, listening again, but would be good to know how you get on. I think Y is just more impressive, in a bad way.
I will let you know. :-)
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for x vs y it was x for me and I didnt hat the feeling it was close between the two - x2 vs y2 is to my understanding comparing the same setups like x vs y?

I also prefer x2 over y2
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Defender wrote: 2023-03-06 19:57 for x vs y it was x for me and I didnt hat the feeling it was close between the two - x2 vs y2 is to my understanding comparing the same setups like x vs y?

I also prefer x2 over y2
Yes, that is correct. :-)
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Defender wrote: 2023-03-06 19:57 for x vs y it was x for me and I didnt hat the feeling it was close between the two - x2 vs y2 is to my understanding comparing the same setups like x vs y?

I also prefer x2 over y2
I'm in agreement with this, x better than y and not that subtle. x2 also better than y2. I find it interesting that what I didn't like about the y clips seemed to manifest differently in the two sets. in the first set the y clip just seemed pretty blah compared to the x clip. In the 2 set the I found the y clip to be audibly offensive whereas the x clip was good. Anyway, it looks like you are headed in the right direction.
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Thank you all for your help! X it is and now on with listening to music. :-)
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A more uptempo track kicks in after a minute or so...

A: https://www.dropbox.com/s/daz98iqgivqnh ... 2.mp4?dl=0

B: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr9m0igojoy3n ... 4.mp4?dl=0

You might need to adjust the volume a touch between clips but there's a reason for that.
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I prefer A on this set of clips.
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I prefer B.
The difference in volume threw me off at first but in the end B is more emotional so that's my pick.
Edit: By the way, how do you like the 212 so far?
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.. bass seems a bit disjointed in both uptempo tracks - struggled to get by that - may just be Phil ;)
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tokenbrit wrote: 2023-03-09 17:58 .. bass seems a bit disjointed in both uptempo tracks - struggled to get by that - may just be Phil ;)
I think I need a Klout or Tundra 2.5 to fix that
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A = VM540EB
B = VM95E

Wakonda was at the same volume setting for each recording - I wasn't sure whether to compensate for the different levels or not.

The 540 has been in the office for several weeks and I know it's got a lot better since the clips a while back. I'd hoped it would be much closer cos I like the clarity of the 540 but for me the 95 is still quite a bit more involving. Oh well - back to the Adikt or maybe Linn will have something new this year.
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