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matthias wrote: 2021-08-09 23:10 Hi guys,

here a comparison of two DACs. Which one do you prefer?

18 https://storage.googleapis.com/cloudpla ... tes/18.wav

19 https://storage.googleapis.com/cloudpla ... tes/19.wav

The volume is not the same, sorry.
Thanks for voting.

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Just back from vacation. I didn't read the replies to this yet. I much prefer 18. Both instruments, but particularly the violin, really pulled me in. In contrast on 19 it sounded like poorer musicians playing inferior instruments.

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matthias wrote: 2021-08-10 09:03 Same DACs with somewhat better volume leveling:

28 https://storage.googleapis.com/cloudpla ... 8%20KD.wav

29 https://storage.googleapis.com/cloudpla ... 9%20PD.wav

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On these two I prefer 28. I'm hearing basically the same differences I heard on 18 and 19, where I equalized the volume on the computer while listening.
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Now after reading all this it appears I picked two different DACs. I went back and listened again and I still prefer 28 to 29 even though they are close as several mentioned. Now I wonder whether the volume control used to equalize the volumes of 28 and 29 has more or less effect on the sound than the internal volume control in the old iMac I used on 18 and 19. Ah, well. Digital mysteries.
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matthias wrote: 2021-08-12 18:31 .. Let me explain.

OF is Original File
ADC is Analog/Digital Converter for recording the clips
MBP is the DAC inside Macbook Pro
HP is headphones

The signal flow for the clips and playback is like:

OF > DAC1/2 > ADC > Clip1/2 > MBP > HP (A)

The signal flow for playback of the OF is like:

OF > MBP > HP (B)

So with the clips you have an additional DAC/ADC step. When with one DAC (A) and (B) are closer I would prefer this DAC.

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I'm confused: what is your "ADC" in this instance? Is it DAC output played through your sig system, and recorded on your phone, or did you take the DAC output into a mic(?) input on a computer to convert back to digital?
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tokenbrit wrote: 2021-08-18 21:10 [I'm confused: what is your "ADC" in this instance? Is it DAC output played through your sig system, and recorded on your phone, or did you take the DAC output into a mic(?) input on a computer to convert back to digital?
The analog DAC output went into the line input of a Tascam digital recorder, no mics.

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The playground has been fairly quiet recently, so here’s a little something to keep you going. It’s my diy power supply powering a Netgear GS108T and some other stuff which you don’t need to worry your pretty little heads about right now 🤣

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1259UlCqHn2Trh

Enjoy!
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Spannko wrote: 2021-08-22 22:46 The playground has been fairly quiet recently, so here’s a little something to keep you going. It’s my diy power supply powering a Netgear GS108T and some other stuff which you don’t need to worry your pretty little heads about right now 🤣

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1259UlCqHn2Trh

Enjoy!
I prefer your Henri is to the one we're dealing with here in New England - you could have recorded a clip of the Scorpions, at least: Rock You Like a (now) Tropical Depression (that's a bit stuck/stalled) :/
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Gosh, yes. I forgot Henri was ripping it up down your way. I hope everyone who’s effected by the storms are OK 🤞

To take your mind off what’s going on in this crazy new world of ours for a couple of minutes, here’s a direct comparison between Henri (the power supply!) and the standard Netgear powering a GS108T.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B12J0DiRHtU1tHi
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Get a good sense of performance from both: Netgear feels a bit closer to the stage; Henri a bit further back, relaxed, taking in the atmosphere...
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Sorry Spannko but much preferring the netgear on this comparison - it makes much more sense of the music to my ears
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Charlie1 wrote: 2021-08-23 17:05 Sorry Spannko but much preferring the netgear on this comparison - it makes much more sense of the music to my ears
I feel the same.
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lejonklou wrote: 2021-08-23 17:23
Charlie1 wrote: 2021-08-23 17:05 Sorry Spannko but much preferring the netgear on this comparison - it makes much more sense of the music to my ears
I feel the same.
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No worries. Mk 43 is already running in!
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Spannko wrote: 2021-08-23 19:56 No worries. Mk 43 is already running in!
So 42 wasn't the answer... :?
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tokenbrit wrote: 2021-08-23 20:16
Spannko wrote: 2021-08-23 19:56 No worries. Mk 43 is already running in!
So 42 wasn't the answer... :?
What was the question again? 🤔
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tokenbrit wrote: 2021-08-23 20:16
Spannko wrote: 2021-08-23 19:56 No worries. Mk 43 is already running in!
So 42 wasn't the answer... :?
Clearly not! You guy’s are so hard to please!
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Charlie1 wrote: 2021-08-23 20:53
tokenbrit wrote: 2021-08-23 20:16
Spannko wrote: 2021-08-23 19:56 No worries. Mk 43 is already running in!
So 42 wasn't the answer... :?
What was the question again? 🤔
Ultimately, 'music to your ears' if you can match the question to the answer ;)
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Do I need a babel fish for that?
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Spannko wrote: 2021-08-23 21:44
tokenbrit wrote: 2021-08-23 20:16
Spannko wrote: 2021-08-23 19:56 No worries. Mk 43 is already running in!
So 42 wasn't the answer... :?
Clearly not! You guy’s are so hard to please!
Or those pesky 1s & 0s being phased, potentially? ;)
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Charlie1 wrote: 2021-08-23 23:10 Do I need a babel fish for that?
Only if they're trained in the tuna-method :D
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Ooh fishy, fishy, fishy, fish.
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ThomasOK wrote: 2021-08-24 17:20 Ooh fishy, fishy, fishy, fish.
Indeed, although I slightly regret watching the video clip found from a search based on your quote/post... :D

Speaking of ghoti I suppose we should throw this thread back now. After all, 'if you give a man a fish, he will be hungry tomorrow. If you teach a man the Tune Method, he will be richer forever.' ;)
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tokenbrit wrote: 2021-08-24 20:52
ThomasOK wrote: 2021-08-24 17:20 Ooh fishy, fishy, fishy, fish.
Indeed, although I slightly regret watching the video clip found from a search based on your quote/post... :D
As did I when looking for the exact quote...
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ThomasOK wrote: 2021-08-24 23:20 As did I when looking for the exact quote...
Thanks for the laugh :)
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