Playground for practical listening exercises

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Me too. I like L1 and L2. :-)
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Offerdal wrote: 2022-09-25 08:35 Yes only LP12 moving around. No trampolin. Took the trampolinfeet off the urika and use standard solid base feet.
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K 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ou0g1wtem0bk2 ... 1.mov?dl=0

K 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xbnfpe1w0ob4h ... 2.mov?dl=0

L 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/272w41f3rm3f4 ... 1.mov?dl=0

L 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/00tpf3h7eu04d ... 2.mov?dl=0
I found this a bit easier. Playing downloaded files thru Apple TV to Hakai.

I prefer L1 and L2. I found K2 sounded a bit harsh thru my playback and had to turn it down a bit.
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K1 and K2 for me.
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I missed the previous clips. Was there a reference bottom on that Harmoni rack (basically an upside down Tor shelf that can’t be used)?

If could have made a wish, I would have made that and then replacing Mimer K with a Tor or a Trud. And definitely using Trampolin feet on all Harmoni shelves.

Regarding K and L, I find K to make more sense. It’s certainly harsher and not sounding as nice, but the pace and interplay feels more solid. In comparison, L is rushing forward as if the musicians have had too much coffee.
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Hmm, another opinion splitter! I wonder if there would be more consensus if everyone focused only on the tune playing differences?
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I think that's what we do, Spannko. :)
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lejonklou wrote: 2022-09-25 21:21 I think that's what we do, Spannko. :)
I think so too. However, I can’t help but wonder why we sometimes come to different conclusions, and the most frustrating thing about that is I genuinely don’t have an answer!
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Clips are a little tricky. I think that in the same room, the opinion splits would be far less.

But we’d probably still have a few interesting divisions. I find those moments extremely valuable. There always something to learn from them.
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lejonklou wrote: 2022-09-26 01:02But we’d probably still have a few interesting divisions. I find those moments extremely valuable. There always something to learn from them.
Yes, I absolutely agree!
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K for me
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Spannko wrote: 2022-09-25 22:49
lejonklou wrote: 2022-09-25 21:21 I think that's what we do, Spannko. :)
I think so too. However, I can’t help but wonder why we sometimes come to different conclusions, and the most frustrating thing about that is I genuinely don’t have an answer!
This is in a nutshell why this forum to me is relevant and so interesting. :-)
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Groovin' along to the "L" clips
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Charlie1, there is Kaber active with Klout

K= Mana referens table (earlier best mana)
L= Naim Fraim
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Offerdal wrote: 2022-09-27 20:37 Charlie1, there is Kaber active with Klout

K= Mana referens table (earlier best mana)
L= Naim Fraim
So, sitting in the room what setup floats your boat? :-)
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Beck: it is quite hard to choose between them in the room. It takes a while to change and it could be bias when I see the tables. Slightly prefer Mana but think there is more to get out of the LP12 setup. Next setup I am really interested in your comments.

M 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/re542d36dh0lg ... 1.mov?dl=0

M 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6s40cs0y8sif ... 2.mov?dl=0

M 3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3b3o5iyzsuuky ... 3.mov?dl=0

N 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2m9nzq7n91n78 ... 1.mov?dl=0

N 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jw8qxpe6se81w ... 2.mov?dl=0

N 3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sx131mz0me13b ... 3.mov?dl=0
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I prefer M; it's more musically coherent to me. N might 'sound' better, but is a bit disjointed...

(Previously, I was ok with K, less with L)
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It took me quite a while to sort these two out! Eventually, I also felt that M had the edge. It was close and difficult for me but it felt like M was slightly more harmonious than N.

The first track had a 1970’s Meters feel to it, but halfway through I picked up another band’s signature but couldn’t quite put my finger on it! Who were they Offerdal please?
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I'm not Offerdal, but:
1. Moby - Honey
3. Madonna - Like a Prayer

Google says 2 is Junip - Line of Fire
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Need to try again later on the mac as my preference is flipping
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tokenbrit wrote: 2022-09-28 15:39 I'm not Offerdal, but:
1. Moby - Honey
3. Madonna - Like a Prayer

Google says 2 is Junip - Line of Fire
Thanks tokenbrit. I wonder if it was influenced by this https://open.spotify.com/track/3COOd5x ... 4RCuLS186w
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Spannko wrote: 2022-09-28 18:07
tokenbrit wrote: 2022-09-28 15:39 I'm not Offerdal, but:
1. Moby - Honey
3. Madonna - Like a Prayer

Google says 2 is Junip - Line of Fire
Thanks tokenbrit. I wonder if it was influenced by this https://open.spotify.com/track/3COOd5x ... 4RCuLS186w
Since Moby "became a prolific figure as a DJ, producer and remixer"¹, it is possible that it was an influence...

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby
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Re: Playground for practical listening exercises

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I vote for M.
While sounding nice, there's something off with the drive and timing on N.
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M for me
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M was a clear preference with both laptops for clip 2 but I struggled with the other two clips, esp Madonna.

I think I'd have to opt for M simply based on the second clip cos it's a bit of a jumble with N, and besides, M doesn't do anything wrong on clips 1 and 3.

However, there is something I like with N clips 1 and 3, maybe rhythmic drive, not really sure.

I'm interested to know what's what. I'm guessing M is Harmoni rack and N is a Mana rack.
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