Playground for practical listening exercises

[Lego]

Giving the iPad as recording device a go:

This way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w63epka77aq3h ... 9.MOV?dl=0
That way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g13jsvenfr89v ... 0.MOV?dl=0

Very close and a great track,impeccable taste Mi8,but if pushed I'd go with That way

[Lego]

Considering getting a new HIFI device.
But would like your opinions on what you believe to be more musical:
Recorded with laptop mic so horrible sq.

1. Virginhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/60c68242v9arj ... .flac?dl=0
2. Virginhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/qoqpt795orggk ... .flac?dl=0

1. ILOMITOhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/scf5civqbcwft ... .flac?dl=0
2. ILOMITOhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cybiyfa83vei6 ... .flac?dl=0

Source material for the L versions:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7panjod0457gh ... .flac?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjz6fyl6nyfhj ... .flac?dl=0

Let me know if I should save my money or splash it.. :)

Clip 2 in first 2 ..

[tokenbrit]

Giving the iPad as recording device a go:

This way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w63epka77aq3h ... 9.MOV?dl=0
That way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g13jsvenfr89v ... 0.MOV?dl=0

This is not all that. That's more like it.

[tokenbrit]

Considering getting a new HIFI device.
But would like your opinions on what you believe to be more musical:
Recorded with laptop mic so horrible sq...

Let me know if I should save my money or splash it.. :)

I'm inclined to go with the others, not against: I think I'd choose 2/Hs over 1/Ls... I don't know that I'd decide on save or splash, tho', on the basis of these clips, unless they echo what you hear there, in room.

[fredrik]

I'm inclined to go with the others, not against: I think I'd choose 2/Hs over 1/Ls... I don't know that I'd decide on save or splash, tho', on the basis of these clips, unless they echo what you hear there, in room.

The iphone might offer much better quality than my laptop. I will use it for the next round if I post anything.

Anyway thanks for the replies, the:
L-files are captured from LP12, Urika2, Ekos /SE, Kandid, Machined Radikal, songcorder on EKDSM played back though KDSM/2
The H files are files streamed directory using ROON from the KDSM/2 (HDtracks source)
The LP12 is the potential investment. Based on your feedback it would not add much to the equation for these examples.

[tokenbrit]

So H is digital played directly; L is an analog songcorder recording played back?

How about iPhone recordings of LP12 vs DS so that we can hear each 'directly' without songcorder?

[Tendaberry]

Anyway thanks for the replies, the:
L-files are captured from LP12, Urika2, Ekos /SE, Kandid, Machined Radikal, songcorder on EKDSM played back though KDSM/2
The H files are files streamed directory using ROON from the KDSM/2 (HDtracks source)
The LP12 is the potential investment. Based on your feedback it would not add much to the equation for these examples.

I'm late to the party, so it may not matter now, but I think the L-files were considerably better.

[Defender]

H? L? I only saw 1.Virgin and 2.Virgin and 1.ILOMITO and 2.ILOMITO and my choice was 2.Virgin (disclaimer: I only state the name of the file I was not responsible for naming it that way) and 2.ILOMITO didnt even checked the source files as I thought you would know the difference between 1. and 2.

[tokenbrit]

H? L? I only saw 1.Virgin and 2.Virgin and 1.ILOMITO and 2.ILOMITO and my choice was 2.Virgin (disclaimer: I only state the name of the file I was not responsible for naming it that way) and 2.ILOMITO didnt even checked the source files as I thought you would know the difference between 1. and 2.

1 = L; 2 = H

Prompted by fredrik referring to the "L-files...", it's in the flac file names, and displayed when listening:
(1) V-LD v V-HD (2)
(1) L-ILOMITO v H-ILOMITO (2)

[fredrik]

So H is digital played directly; L is an analog songcorder recording played back?

How about iPhone recordings of LP12 vs DS so that we can hear each 'directly' without songcorder?

I did a virtual home dem with the tracks recorded at the dealer. Since Urika2 is digitally attached to KDSM it should be pretty close. Anyway I posted the raw captured files so you can all repeat the test against your own sources streamer/turntable.

[John]

Can I assume the recordings on this thread are made from an iPhone using the Camera app? It also looks like the iPhone is being handheld in a horizontal position with the main camera lense positioned at the hi fi so you can see both speakers. For me, that distance would be very close to the sweetspot where my ears are located.

My understanding is that the microphones, which are located on the bottom, would then be facing either the left or right adjacent wall right or left of your sweetspot hopefully not blocked from your hand holding the iPhone. Is this correct?

[Defender]

yes to all Kamera app in video mode. and yes I try to take care not block one of the mics

[tokenbrit]

So H is digital played directly; L is an analog songcorder recording played back?

How about iPhone recordings of LP12 vs DS so that we can hear each 'directly' without songcorder?

I did a virtual home dem with the tracks recorded at the dealer. Since Urika2 is digitally attached to KDSM it should be pretty close. Anyway I posted the raw captured files so you can all repeat the test against your own sources streamer/turntable.

Understood. I thought both sources were at home rather than a virtual home dem... No disrespect but the laptop clips do sound poor especially against the raw files - shame the dealer couldn't have 'songcordered' both analog & digital sources to compare.
It would be interesting to hear iPhone recordings rather than from the laptop mic, unless you've decided not to pursue LvH any further.

[John]

So based on the prior set of recordings by Thomas and a purchase spurred by Herman of this forum, I decided to give this a go with a more current ECM recording by Nils Petter Molvaer “Khmer”.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ikczdujq4zfxg/A.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q35g1esjwnu86cc/B.mov?dl=0

[Hermann]

MSG: Video not available. This video is private.

[John]

It appears YouTube took down the video. I received this email shortly after uploading the files. Too bad, I think It has something to do with ECM as I know Rick Beato has mentioned that ECM does not allow their music to be played on his YouTube channel. I guess I need to find other music. Any suggestions? Would that be more recent music? Not sure if mastering is the same or not.


A copyright owner using Content ID has claimed some material in your video.

As a result, your video has been blocked, and can no longer be played on YouTube.

This is not a copyright strike. This claim does not affect your account status.

Video title: On Stream A
Copyrighted content: On Stream
Claimed by: UMG

Why this can happen

Your video might contain copyrighted content.
Copyright owners can choose to block YouTube videos that contain their content.

[tokenbrit]

It appears YouTube took down the video... I guess I need to find other music. Any suggestions?

You could try Dropbox to post the clips... save you finding new music & making new clips.

[Hermann]

After this also happened with my tracks, I went to https://my.pcloud.com.

[John]

Moved files to Dropbox.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ikczdujq4zfxg/A.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q35g1esjwnu86cc/B.mov?dl=0

[ThomasOK]

They both sound quite good but I enjoyed B more than A. B sounded a bit more in tune and had me moving to the rhythm more.

[tokenbrit]

They both sound quite good but I enjoyed B more than A. B sounded a bit more in tune and had me moving to the rhythm more.

Yes, B - richer rhythmically and more musically interesting; wasn't as distracted by the 'blowing' either...

[markiteight]

Giving the iPad as recording device a go:

This way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w63epka77aq3h ... 9.MOV?dl=0
That way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g13jsvenfr89v ... 0.MOV?dl=0

This way: HAKAI as originally built.
That way: SATA cable direction reversed.

I have a preference for that way too.

[tokenbrit]

This way: HAKAI as originally built.
That way: SATA cable direction reversed.

I have a preference for that way too.

Deltaco SATA cable? Is "direction reversed" with or against text from mobo to SSD?

[markiteight]

Deltaco SATA cable? Is "direction reversed" with or against text from mobo to SSD?

Yes it's the Deltaco cable. "Direction reversed" (That way) is 'with text' from mobo to drive. IIRC we don't know how consistent is Deltaco's manufacturing, so what works for me may not work for you. Best to check yourself.

[fatjulio]

I did that test way back when first putting together my Hakai. I found the same, reading from motherboard to system drive was best. In my Hakai NAS the data drive is best reading from drive to motherboard, as you'd expect. You could surmise that it's more important for the system drive to "write" than to "read".