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Re: Playground for practical listening exercises

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Charlie1 wrote: 2021-10-07 14:08 Really difficult for me. They are very close really so congrats for achieving that.

1 is softer / more delicate. 2 is punchier. I think 2 is probably better. The bass seems more tuneful.

They seem better recordings. Was todays with a phone and yesterday mic / tripod? Or am I just hearing things that aren’t there
Thanks charlie1. The differences you describe are exactly as I hear them too.

The recordings are exactly the same, but recorded in the morning as opposed to early evening.
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Spannko wrote: 2021-10-08 23:21
tokenbrit wrote: 2021-10-07 14:47 Is that a dog toy/chew on the floor, Spannko? If so, where (& what) is/are the 'woofer/s'?

Oh, yeah, the clips: I prefer 1 this time - feels like there's more to the guitar, and better interplay between the musicians. I agree with Charlie1 that "2 is punchier", but it just seems focused on the timing rather than the music.
Well spotted tokenbrit! We’ve got two woofers with us at the moment. Nala, a cocker spaniel and her daughter Jude, who is a 4 month old cocker/springer cross... Jude will stay with us for 12 months before going off to be trained as a police sniffer dog, whilst Nala lives with us permanently.

Re the power supplies. Who needs timing, eh? It’s so overrated!
I have a soft spot for spaniels having grown up with one, but a springer cross pup - oh my! And police sniffer dog to be? That is very cool :)

Well I do think that music needs timing but clip 2 suggests that timing doesn't need music ;)
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Spannko wrote: 2021-10-08 23:21 Re the power supplies. Who needs timing, eh? It’s so overrated!
Given the reference in the Källa thread, which clip was which?
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tokenbrit wrote: 2021-10-10 17:12
Spannko wrote: 2021-10-08 23:21 Re the power supplies. Who needs timing, eh? It’s so overrated!
Given the reference in the Källa thread, which clip was which?
Oops! Sorry, I thought I’d said. I wondered why charlie1 wasn’t sure either! Clip 1 is the Netgear. Clip 2 is the Henri.
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Interesting.

Firstly, ref 1 vs 2, I've decided I only prefer 1 at the beginning of Hotel California. Once the band kicks in then I prefer 2. Still prefer 2 on Madonna.

3 has a different sound so I'm guess not bolt down Naim. The balance is perhaps better suited to your speakers but I still find 2 the most coherent and would be my choice. Look forward to knowing what 3 is.
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Overall I prefer the 1.0 system.
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beck wrote: 2021-10-11 02:51 Overall I prefer the 1.0 system.
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I have found my own little digital music “heaven”. Can you find it? Is it A,B or C?

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B:

C:


I never thought this would possible with a cheap cd player....... not missing the Sondek.
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putting us under a bit of pressure here beck - what if we pick non-heaven?!

I'm going for B
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I thought that 'B' sounded a little clearer than the others, but I find 'A' keeps me wanting to listen to the end, whereas my attention wanders for 'B' and 'C'.

If I had to choose between 'B' and 'C' I would choose 'C'.

So my preference is:

1. 'A'
2. 'C'
3. 'B'
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It's either A or C, but thinking I prefer A.
As a CD-tweaker myself what did you change between the recordings?
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Found it in "heAven" 😇
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I don't know if it is heaven but I would give the heAve ho to B and C. I also agree that C is the better of those two lesser pieces. Nice track and I'll take more of A please.
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I will give my take on all three clips later. No pressure Charlie1. They are not that far apart but some things are different.
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I've had another listen whilst relaxing in the bath which is often the best time for me. I'm jumping ship quick and going with A :)
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Charlie1 wrote: 2021-10-13 19:44 I've had another listen whilst relaxing in the bath which is often the best time for me. I'm jumping ship quick and going with A :)
Do you need beck to record a new clip? :)
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Lol 😆
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:-)
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Thank you for listening to all.

It is a really interesting thing to experiment with lesser equipment than usually get promoted here on the forum.

The music is Lars Danielsson from the album Libera Me. The track is called Asta.

A) Has been my basis setup for a while now really enjoying it but always trying to better it step by step. Not quite as focussed in sound as I could hope for but enjoyable all the same.

B) Is an attempt to better it by further modifying the “flimsy” cd tray by simply putting a small amount of “blu tack” on the front of the tray.
It sounds clearer but ultimately it “breaks up” the feeling of musical flow among other things.

C) Is my best attempt to date to better A using some extra small dots of “blu tack” inside the tray, maybe not fully successful but very good when listening in my room. More focus in sound but slightly lacking in flow.

At present I use C but I will likely return to A to try again.

Part of what I have done to the cd tray:

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Others things underneath the tray handle the slight rattle that the tray could ruin the sound with when closed.

As you can see felt has also been used.

P.S: Try downloading A and C and compare from your device directly. I think C comes out better that way.


Latest: I have reverted back to my A setup. It is mind-boggling how sensitive digital is to the smallest changes.
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3.
Naim 32.5-160BD
Thanks for input!
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Offerdal wrote: 2021-10-16 08:32 3.
Naim 32.5-160BD
Thanks for input!
What do you prefer yourself?
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beck wrote: 2021-10-13 22:04 It is mind-boggling how sensitive digital is to the smallest changes.
Yes. I'm experimenting with cut up gunstig for my Hakai. It seems to have an unreasonable beneficial effect.
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I am between 1 and 2. I think the 3 sounds a bit weird.
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Offerdal wrote: 2021-10-16 09:17 I am between 1 and 2. I think the 3 sounds a bit weird.
I agree that 3 is a bit off...
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