Playground for practical listening exercises
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Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
Still number 1 here
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
Yes, it was my first quick listen not using headphones and it was your third clip.....
Just hearing something differently and not at first hearing anything completely wrong....
Playing cd’s…………
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
the 3rd clip was pre-first as opposite to Option 1 which is Lingo2 first - I also thought pre first sounds interesting in the beginning but than I had the feeling I liked Lingo first better so I switched back - so back to option 1
Vlado: for clip two with reversed phase on Lingo 2 I think I can hear melodies break up earlier and with doing it they break the flow
Vlado: for clip two with reversed phase on Lingo 2 I think I can hear melodies break up earlier and with doing it they break the flow
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Definitely option 1 for me.Defender wrote: ↑2020-04-02 10:02 as beck is trying to find new torques for his cd player I am trying to optimize my Option 1 ;)
Option 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e35sx6howfbeo ... 3.mov?dl=0
Reversed Phase on Lingo 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5233fqv02oq0 ... 0.mov?dl=0
something which I will reveal later
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qw98ia19xtkzc ... 4.mov?dl=0
Really interesting that pre first was not better. If Lingo is first in the power strip, can you tell us what follows (order and product)?
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
thank you all for your feedback and for reassuring me of Option1 running out of ideas
Idea:
whenever I see the cable to the radikal motor which includes the pin which connects to the motor switch I see it is clamped really heavy where the two cables split. I think putting the cable under such stress should influence the sound - has anyone tried to losen that clamp and see if it makes a difference?
I am thinking of Beck‘s experience with the power supply - my Radikal is not installed yet otherwise I would try it by myself.
just saw the question:
Lingo2 - Sagatun Stereo - Linto - Pass XA30.5
with Pre First only the first two have changed position
but only 1hour rewarming for Sagatun, Lingo2 and Pass XA after the change
Idea:
whenever I see the cable to the radikal motor which includes the pin which connects to the motor switch I see it is clamped really heavy where the two cables split. I think putting the cable under such stress should influence the sound - has anyone tried to losen that clamp and see if it makes a difference?
I am thinking of Beck‘s experience with the power supply - my Radikal is not installed yet otherwise I would try it by myself.
just saw the question:
Lingo2 - Sagatun Stereo - Linto - Pass XA30.5
with Pre First only the first two have changed position
but only 1hour rewarming for Sagatun, Lingo2 and Pass XA after the change
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
Yes, good to know, to learn how and on what react my laptop and headphones ...Defender wrote: ↑2020-04-02 13:24 the 3rd clip was pre-first as opposite to Option 1 which is Lingo2 first - I also thought pre first sounds interesting in the beginning but than I had the feeling I liked Lingo first better so I switched back - so back to option 1
Vlado: for clip two with reversed phase on Lingo 2 I think I can hear melodies break up earlier and with doing it they break the flow
Thank you ...
Music First ...
Vlado
Vlado
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This is interesting ...
P.S. As idea to try ... Linto to go on second and Sagatun Stereo on third position ... than it will be pure source first ...
Music First ...
Vlado
Vlado
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is this the first time that Option 2 is better?
Option1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dp4akjcg02whc ... 9.mov?dl=0
Option2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21ekplgiku6bu ... 2.mov?dl=0
Option1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dp4akjcg02whc ... 9.mov?dl=0
Option2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21ekplgiku6bu ... 2.mov?dl=0
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
It might be...... :-)
........but my pick is option 1.
........but my pick is option 1.
Playing cd’s…………
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Blimey, your system really throws out some deep bass. After about 30 sec I started to wonder if it was a remix. Do you have a concrete floor underneath? Very clear sound too, yet musical.
Anyway, I found it quite close but slightly prefer 1 as well.
Anyway, I found it quite close but slightly prefer 1 as well.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
I prefer 1 but I wasn't sure if I preferred it cos the sound is better or cos it's musically better. The other two seem quite muffled / bloated by comparison.Defender wrote: ↑2020-04-02 10:02 as beck is trying to find new torques for his cd player I am trying to optimize my Option 1 ;)
Option 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e35sx6howfbeo ... 3.mov?dl=0
Reversed Phase on Lingo 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5233fqv02oq0 ... 0.mov?dl=0
something which I will reveal later
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qw98ia19xtkzc ... 4.mov?dl=0
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
Hi Charlie yes I have concrete floor underneath the wood panels - and I have also made the experience that a wooden floor seems to eat up some bass energy. Actually I sometimes think my system sounds better through the recordings than it really is ;)
The difference between the two settings is about 1mm turn of the outer platter ... maybe even less.
But even though I didnt do it to confuse Beck but the former Option 1 (my reference to compare to) is now Option 2.
If you like Option 1 from the very last comparison (yesterday night) better than I dont have to redo the Pre-First try as that was done with that setting.
I actually still think Option 2 (the former Option 1) is better but not 100% sure.
Last edited by Defender on 2020-04-03 09:52, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
For me Option 2, much easier to follow the Tune, and music keep my attention to ...Defender wrote: ↑2020-04-02 20:06 is this the first time that Option 2 is better?
Option1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dp4akjcg02whc ... 9.mov?dl=0
Option2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21ekplgiku6bu ... 2.mov?dl=0
Music First ...
Vlado
Vlado
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Defender,
Looks that Beck and I vote different on last 2 ... ???
Looks that Beck and I vote different on last 2 ... ???
Music First ...
Vlado
Vlado
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
And that is why we need to be as many as possible to evaluate. I can easily be wrong. :-)
Playing cd’s…………
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
yes it helps the more we are as I sometimes have the feeling it depends on which initial melody I focus first and I still can’t let go if something sounds wired-even though it might be the better tune overall.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
Yes, more it is better.
My opinion is with melody ... but not what I listen initial (I do it AAB, as it is in Tune Method), but what melody it is ... with vocal - male / female or instrumental, more or less dynamical - micro / overall and other factors ... you know what I mean ...
The last one with B. Ferry is ... as example ...
Music First ...
Vlado
Vlado
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Yes ... as I answer to Defender ... I have made lot of mistakes ... :-)
P.S. Size meters or ... :-)))
Music First ...
Vlado
Vlado
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Shhhh ... quiet ... they will her you ... ;-)
Music First ...
Vlado
Vlado
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2 is a bit leading-edge, snappy for me listening on phone and again on laptop. I find it a bit too much that it distracts me from the rest of the notes, singing, & music - I prefer 1 (20:50) as it seems better balanced to these ears
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Definitely 1 for me. To my ears timing is better.
Kalla/Sag M/Tun M3/242/LP12/Slip7
Kalla/Giella Pi/JBL308/RS2e
Majik LP12/Boazu/110s
Kalla/Giella Pi/JBL308/RS2e
Majik LP12/Boazu/110s
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One of my favorite albums.Defender wrote: ↑2020-04-02 20:06 is this the first time that Option 2 is better?
Option1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dp4akjcg02whc ... 9.mov?dl=0
Option2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21ekplgiku6bu ... 2.mov?dl=0
Option 1 for me please!
Re: Playground for practical listening exercices
hey Vlado seems we both need to go back to tune dem school ;)