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New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-08 18:47
by beck
My Klyde is worn out and I would like a cheaper but somewhat simular sounding cartridge. I use a Linto so what am I looking for?
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-08 20:06
by matthias
beck wrote:My Klyde is worn out and I would like a cheaper but somewhat simular sounding cartridge. I use a Linto so what am I looking for?
I like very much my EMT cartridge, you can use it with the Low Gain on your Linto, but I am not sure if it is really cheaper than a Klyde.
KR Matt
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-08 22:03
by Charlie1
An alternative idea, what about moving to the Gaio/Adikt as a long-term cost effective solution? Perhaps the long term savings could justify a upgrade to your deck and offset any loss in musicality. Lingo 1 to 2 is well worth doing. You'd lose the
Linto though and I know you love your LK boxes.
The Dynavector DV20 is held in quite high regard, but never compared it to the Klyde.
If you are happy with the Klyde then you need to be really careful what you do. Saving a relatively small amount might bring you a lot of grief. You could easily regret it. Definitely dem any alternatives is my advise.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-08 22:09
by tokenbrit
Was going to suggest Dynavector DV-20X2L, but Charlie beat me to it... I agree with him that Adikt (or 2M Black) & Gaio might be worth an audition as an alternative to replacing your moving coil cart & keeping the Linto.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-08 22:19
by tokenbrit
Maybe listen to a Sumiko Blue Point Special Evo III - I have not heard one, and wouldn't know how they compare, but they are well regarded and certainly cheaper than a Klyde.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-08 22:42
by beck
Yes, changing cartridge is not an easy task. Thank you for your answers. I will think about it and try to get a chance to listen to one or two of the ones you have pointed out to me.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-09 12:51
by pdcman
I'll think you'll find the DV fits the bill perfectly. Must be the low output version for use with your Linto.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-09 18:29
by ThomasOK
If you are wanting to stick with your Linto I think the DV20X2L (low output version) is your best alternative. Blue point is Ok but does not perform musically at Adikt/DV20 level. It is also high output so would need a different phono stage. Same goes for the DV10x5 - not as musical/high output. There was a time when the AT-OC9 MkII was quite cheap and it was decent sounding, although again IMO not in the league of the Adikt but then it was about half the price and wasn't nasty like most cheap MCs. However, it has been replaced by the AT-OC9 MkIII which I haven't heard and has risen into the Adikt/DV20 pricing region.
Best to give a listen to both the Adikt and DV20X2L if possible to make up your own mind.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-09 18:32
by HIDDENSYSTEMS
I just took in a Dynavector DV-20X2H. Less than six months old, still sat on an Ittok and Hercules LP12. Cartridge wasn't supplied by us said to be £600, gave him £350 so that's the price - PM the owner "resovoir"on the linn forum to double check. He was happy until he heard our deck :-) Chris
I demo'd into his adsm then Uphorik and the High Output was fine.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-09 21:30
by beck
Not buying used and not in a hurry even though the headline could give that impression but thank you for the offer. Regards
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-23 11:49
by Linnism
DV20X2L is lovely, while the stylus profile is sensitive to vinyl condition (I'm talking here about overt groove damage or bad wear). Both the Klyde and Adikt seem more tolerant of that (my comments are based on client feedback). If your records are new, or in top condition, then I feel fairly safe recommending DV20X2L. I don't recommend a rebuilt Klyde, but your dealer would offer a good exchange price against a new one from Linn (subject to Linn terms and conditions). Good luck, and happy listening.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-23 12:07
by Charlie1
Great photos on your website Linnism. Did you take them? Don't suppose you were a Linn/Naim dealer in Sydney in the early 90's were you?
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-24 21:10
by beck
Just an update. I have made the safe bet by ordering a new Klyde. I just love the way it plays music. I have used a lot of time on the www reading about many different cartridges and been speculating a lot but in the end it just boils down to me not even stopping listening to my records with a worn Klyde (I know I should stop!).
So no experiments this time around. Maybe next time!
Thank you all for a helpful place to discuss this expensive, crazy and lovely hobby!
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-24 21:44
by Charlie1
Sounds like a good decision. I'm sure you'll continue to enjoy your music collection.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-24 23:12
by lejonklou
Charlie1 wrote:Great photos on your website Linnism.
Agree! Lovely pics.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-24 23:17
by lejonklou
beck wrote:Just an update. I have made the safe bet by ordering a new Klyde.
Sometimes it's good to play safe. For instance when comparisons are really complicated.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2015-07-25 02:01
by Linnism
Thanks re photos. Charlie, no connection to Sydney.
Beck, Re new Klyde: probably the best choice, IMHO. I actually came back to mention that I recently had someone swap from a DV20X2L (he's had 2 of them) to the Adikt and he felt it was, for him, an overall improvement (IE, not in every way). However, he mostly buys vintage vinyl, so that was a factor in his result.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2022-01-16 18:21
by Øyvind I
Linnism wrote: ↑2015-07-25 02:01
Thanks re photos. Charlie, no connection to Sydney.
Beck, Re new Klyde: probably the best choice, IMHO. I actually came back to mention that I recently had someone swap from a DV20X2L (he's had 2 of them) to the Adikt and he felt it was, for him, an overall improvement (IE, not in every way). However, he mostly buys vintage vinyl, so that was a factor in his result.
Sorry for waking up an old thread but it responded well to my search need and experience. I bought a DV20X2L based on the massive recommendation on FB page of LP12 and I was not very impressed. Tracking well and sort of details in there as well but the music did not carry me over.
Compared with Adikt/2 it was basically a bit boring for musical enjoyment. Comparison made both with internal phone stage of Akurate DSM/1 as well as Uphorik for the Dynavector and Rega phono stage of some sort for the Adikt.
In both set ups the Adikt was more fun = there are details present that influences the tune. Hence moving the DV20 along.
(LP12 details in this set-up: new Majik LP12 upgraded with recapped Lingo 1 and, Ittok LVII).
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2022-01-17 09:16
by Lego
beck wrote: ↑2015-07-24 21:10
Just an update. I have made the safe bet by ordering a new Klyde. I just love the way it plays music. I have used a lot of time on the www reading about many different cartridges and been speculating a lot but in the end it just boils down to me not even stopping listening to my records with a worn Klyde (I know I should stop!).
So no experiments this time around. Maybe next time!
Thank you all for a helpful place to discuss this expensive, crazy and lovely hobby!
Wise move Beck ,it's one of my favourite cartridges ,didn't realise Linn still made them.I found Goldring 1042 or something, similar sounding
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2022-01-17 19:10
by mrco99
That actual post from Beck dated from 2015 so I think Klyde being still available from Linn is now a thing of the past too.
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2022-01-18 16:47
by Lego
mrco99 wrote: ↑2022-01-17 19:10
That actual post from Beck dated from 2015 so I think Klyde being still available from Linn is now a thing of the past too.
Ah copy mrco99
Re: New cartridge needed!
Posted: 2022-01-18 17:20
by knoslean
But if Klyde is an option, this store seems to still have it in stock:
https://taktoton.com/linn-klyde.html . I stumbled upon the Klyde while looking for some Linn gear in Dec 2021, before prices were raised.