Playground for practical listening exercises
Moderator: Staff
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
I never listen to in-room clips through speakers, as I find the room-upon-room sound (there’s room resonances in the recording and then there’s room resonances that my speakers are interacting with) too messy. I always listen with headphones. For convenience often iPhone to Airpods Pro 2.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
+1
Matt
Modified mains distribution / Macbook / Exposure pre + power (both modified) / JBL3677
Modified mains distribution / Macbook / Exposure pre + power (both modified) / JBL3677
-
- Very active member
- Posts: 2480
- Joined: 2008-01-24 21:46
- Location: North East of The Black Country, UK
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
Interesting. I know what you mean by the room-upon-room sound, but I’m usually ok with that for some reason.lejonklou wrote: ↑2025-03-17 11:30 I never listen to in-room clips through speakers, as I find the room-upon-room sound (there’s room resonances in the recording and then there’s room resonances that my speakers are interacting with) too messy. I always listen with headphones. For convenience often iPhone to Airpods Pro 2.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
I could probably get used to it if I try it some more.Spannko wrote: ↑2025-03-17 17:42Interesting. I know what you mean by the room-upon-room sound, but I’m usually ok with that for some reason.lejonklou wrote: ↑2025-03-17 11:30 I never listen to in-room clips through speakers, as I find the room-upon-room sound (there’s room resonances in the recording and then there’s room resonances that my speakers are interacting with) too messy. I always listen with headphones. For convenience often iPhone to Airpods Pro 2.
I will try it on the next pair of clips and check whether it’s easier or yields a different result than headphones!
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
Just listened now. A to me, a more pretty listen.springwood64 wrote: ↑2025-03-14 10:26Spannko wrote: ↑2025-03-12 14:40 Would you mind doing this comparison again Pete please. I usually try and listen to clips without reading the opinions of others, but I failed on this occasion so I can’t rule out expectation bias. Also, the GJ track is heavily dynamic range compressed (DR7) and no doubt manipulated in all manner of other ways to make it sound acceptable in loud environments and on suboptimal playback systems. Have you got a cd which isn’t so compressed and also hasn’t been remastered at a later date, which usually means that it has had a higher level of compression applied, and will be the version streamed by Spotify. I know it’s not an easy ask, but hopefully you’ll have a suitable cd in your collection.Managed to find time to do the clips today:springwood64 wrote: ↑2025-03-13 09:54 Thanks for the suggestions. It'll be a week or so before I can do more clips.
A: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SYQxzoQcoK6szoM78
B: https://photos.app.goo.gl/AatZvYdkyaSXekoG7
BJA Silent Air Soundeck Ed, Dr. Fuss, Supernait2, CD5X, Slipsik7.1, Millon Phantom, AudioSensibility
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
The optimization of the small system is making progress. Original Netgear GS 108T power supply replaced with Friwo FW7405M/12. Because of the different connection, I swapped the Friwo plug for one from the Netgear NT.
Springfield Spooky
A - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kYHcU5 ... sp=sharing
B - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AYj7PD ... sp=sharing
Micatone Handbrake
A - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vt4ivq ... sp=sharing
B - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WvD3yn ... sp=sharing
Picture 3 shows my power patch panel with original and modified power blocks
Springfield Spooky
A - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kYHcU5 ... sp=sharing
B - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AYj7PD ... sp=sharing
Micatone Handbrake
A - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vt4ivq ... sp=sharing
B - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WvD3yn ... sp=sharing
Picture 3 shows my power patch panel with original and modified power blocks
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Trust your ears
-
- Very active member
- Posts: 252
- Joined: 2019-10-29 23:55
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
I prefer A on both.
B is too laid-back so when the short "dramatic pause" at 0:33 happens in Springfield Spooky it has less impact.
B is too laid-back so when the short "dramatic pause" at 0:33 happens in Springfield Spooky it has less impact.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
A on Springfield
B on Micatone
I would defo use A for my main system but might go for B as an office system playing background music
B on Micatone
I would defo use A for my main system but might go for B as an office system playing background music
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
I prefer A on both.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
B sounded wrong in different ways between the two songs... A (twice) for me too.
- markiteight
- Moderator
- Posts: 902
- Joined: 2012-01-13 01:50
- Location: Seattle, Wa. USA
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
I'll take A on both, please.
- springwood64
- Very active member
- Posts: 1019
- Joined: 2008-10-13 18:19
- Location: UK
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
I like the way Spooky sounds like a 1970 tape recording when listening to B.
I prefer to listen to the B versions.
I prefer to listen to the B versions.
It’s that live feeling…………….
- Tendaberry
- Very active member
- Posts: 1063
- Joined: 2010-08-30 16:08
- Location: Hamburg
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
At first I thought A was too laid back (listening on an iMac), but when I listened again to only 5-10 seconds of the intros, it was clear, that A is better.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
Thanks everyone for the assessment, and I agree A is better and the original Netgear power supply.
The recordings were taken using different sockets for the Alien/Switch and Boazu/LinnDS. And since nothing is set in stone, everything together into a single power strip.
Here are the examples:
Spooky
C https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-gdpau ... sp=sharing
D https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yhDg_s ... sp=sharing
Handbrake
C https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uBDgFe ... sp=sharing
D https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iLDCDa ... sp=sharing
The recordings were taken using different sockets for the Alien/Switch and Boazu/LinnDS. And since nothing is set in stone, everything together into a single power strip.
Here are the examples:
Spooky
C https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-gdpau ... sp=sharing
D https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yhDg_s ... sp=sharing
Handbrake
C https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uBDgFe ... sp=sharing
D https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iLDCDa ... sp=sharing
Trust your ears
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
These are very tuneful clips Hermann, at least the way my mind makes sense of music. In fact, Spooky with C strikes me as the most tuneful clip I recall hearing.
They seem pretty close to me and I'd be happy with either. D seems to give away a little bit of tunefulness in return for a presentation that comes together a bit more - C seems very slightly split apart and harder to follow 'the whole' but really not much in it for me..
They seem pretty close to me and I'd be happy with either. D seems to give away a little bit of tunefulness in return for a presentation that comes together a bit more - C seems very slightly split apart and harder to follow 'the whole' but really not much in it for me..
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
Spooky C is more in tune.
Rega NAIA, Aphelion II, Aura. Naim CB 32.5/HC, Naxo 3-6/HC, 3x250 into K20/DMS.
-
- Very active member
- Posts: 252
- Joined: 2019-10-29 23:55
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
This wasn't easy, been going back and forth..
I think I prefer C on both for having a more subtle presentation.
I think I prefer C on both for having a more subtle presentation.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
After having gone back and forth between C and D on Spooky and then reading the comments already posted, I must say that I agree with the above. C appears more in tune but looses some groove. I get the itch to find if there's a way to get both!
- markiteight
- Moderator
- Posts: 902
- Joined: 2012-01-13 01:50
- Location: Seattle, Wa. USA
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
I struggled a bit with this one too. I like the sound of D...more 'alive.' But I find it easier to follow the tune on C. To me this difference was more evident on Handbrake.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
Agree about the sound on Handbrake/D but, personally, I find the tune compelling on Spooky/C... Maybe a different order of devices in the single power strip is needed for best of both worlds: tune & sound.markiteight wrote: ↑2025-04-23 03:43 I struggled a bit with this one too. I like the sound of D...more 'alive.' But I find it easier to follow the tune on C. To me this difference was more evident on Handbrake.
Re: Playground for practical listening exercises
Thanks for your opinions. Admittedly, it's difficult to tell the two apart. I personally prefer C, the Friwo power supply. I'm still testing the correct order. What I find more interesting, however, is that the impression of having all devices connected to one power strip sounds much better.
Trust your ears