This is this first time I listen to your digital setup and fully get into the music. I think you can guess my preferred clip.
I guess so :)
It´s crazy what a pair of cables can do!
👍 😃
Digital is easy! ;-)
You just have to keep “looking” until you find the music.
Voted by pm.
One more thing: open voting has pros and cons.
We need open voting to discuss and educate each other. It is not easy to let go listening for sound more than music. Therefore it would be a shame if every voting ended up being “secret”.
beck wrote: ↑2020-07-10 11:09
We need open voting to discuss and educate each other. It is not easy to let go listening for sound more than music. Therefore it would be a shame if every voting ended up being “secret”.
This is one of those times I wonder if the first playing of clips doesn't have a problem. When I first listened to Clip 1 I thought something was wrong. Then I listened to Clip 2 and thought it was better. Then I listened to Clip 2 and Clip 1 a second time, in that reverse order, and preferred Clip 1, and the same going back in the first direction. This was before going to the last page and seeing other's comments. Now I still prefer Clip 1 each time regardless of which I listen to first. Maybe it gets buffered on the computer once you have played it? I'm not sure but I have had this happen before where a clip sounds bad once and then sounds better a second time, etc.
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ThomasOK wrote: ↑2020-07-10 23:39
This is one of those times I wonder if the first playing of clips doesn't have a problem. When I first listened to Clip 1 I thought something was wrong. Then I listened to Clip 2 and thought it was better. Then I listened to Clip 2 and Clip 1 a second time, in that reverse order, and preferred Clip 1, and the same going back in the first direction. This was before going to the last page and seeing other's comments. Now I still prefer Clip 1 each time regardless of which I listen to first. Maybe it gets buffered on the computer once you have played it? I'm not sure but I have had this happen before where a clip sounds bad once and then sounds better a second time, etc.
As ThomasOK surely knows it is possible to download the dropbox clips onto your own device and listen to them in a better and safer manner with a very quick shift when going from the one clip to the other.
You only have to tab the three dots in the top right corner.
ThomasOK wrote: ↑2020-07-10 23:39
This is one of those times I wonder if the first playing of clips doesn't have a problem. When I first listened to Clip 1 I thought something was wrong. Then I listened to Clip 2 and thought it was better. Then I listened to Clip 2 and Clip 1 a second time, in that reverse order, and preferred Clip 1, and the same going back in the first direction. This was before going to the last page and seeing other's comments. Now I still prefer Clip 1 each time regardless of which I listen to first. Maybe it gets buffered on the computer once you have played it? I'm not sure but I have had this happen before where a clip sounds bad once and then sounds better a second time, etc.
I’ve noticed this too. When it happens, I’ve a feeling that it’s got something to do with us experiencing “aural shock” which takes a short time to recover from. When we’ve got used to the new sound, we can then start hearing the finer differences.
Also, I think it takes a track or two for my ear phones to warm up.
ThomasOK wrote: ↑2020-07-10 23:39
This is one of those times I wonder if the first playing of clips doesn't have a problem. When I first listened to Clip 1 I thought something was wrong. Then I listened to Clip 2 and thought it was better. Then I listened to Clip 2 and Clip 1 a second time, in that reverse order, and preferred Clip 1, and the same going back in the first direction. This was before going to the last page and seeing other's comments. Now I still prefer Clip 1 each time regardless of which I listen to first. Maybe it gets buffered on the computer once you have played it? I'm not sure but I have had this happen before where a clip sounds bad once and then sounds better a second time, etc.
As ThomasOK surely knows it is possible to download the dropbox clips onto your own device and listen to them in a better and safer manner with a very quick shift when going from the one clip to the other.
You only have to tab the three dots in the top right corner.
ThomasOK wrote: ↑2020-07-10 23:39
This is one of those times I wonder if the first playing of clips doesn't have a problem. When I first listened to Clip 1 I thought something was wrong. Then I listened to Clip 2 and thought it was better. Then I listened to Clip 2 and Clip 1 a second time, in that reverse order, and preferred Clip 1, and the same going back in the first direction. This was before going to the last page and seeing other's comments. Now I still prefer Clip 1 each time regardless of which I listen to first. Maybe it gets buffered on the computer once you have played it? I'm not sure but I have had this happen before where a clip sounds bad once and then sounds better a second time, etc.
+1, in way clip 1 and than 2 and opposite first 2 than 1 ...
hi Thomas thank you for bringing this up - I got real unhappy because when I heard the clips I also preferred option 2 the first round. Than beck wrote he preferred option 1 so I gave up. Maybe there is still hope?
Defender wrote: ↑2020-07-11 17:48
hi Thomas thank you for bringing this up - I got real unhappy because when I heard the clips I also preferred option 2 the first round. Than beck wrote he preferred option 1 so I gave up. Maybe there is still hope?
I am not failproof and can easily make mistakes.
Stick with your own gut feeling and ask for explanation if in doubt. This is not a competition. We are trying to understand what is going on.
I didnt felt it like a competition but I know that I trust your ears - so your take is kinda like a benchmark for me.
And as I want to get more consistent with my opinion it helps me.
For final decision (beside other upper mentioned issues) most important for me was supporting vocals ... on Clip 1 they are in tune ... supporting. On Clip 2 they are are out of tune ... something like leading ... or loud ...
Also Clips are more than 1 min. and I try to listen and compare at the beginning, where it was harder to make decision ... but than come part with supporting vocals (1+ min.) ...
Defender wrote: ↑2020-07-11 17:59
I didnt felt it like a competition but I know that I trust your ears - so your take is kinda like a benchmark for me.
And as I want to get more consistent with my opinion it helps me.
I can feel the weight on my shoulders getting heavier! :-)
I did come on strong with my opinion about kallesprätts clips and I apologize for that. It makes it difficult for less trained ears to take a different stand. I do understand why clip 2 could be the chosen one for many..........
V.A.MKD wrote: ↑2020-07-11 18:02
For final decision (beside other upper mentioned issues) most important for me was supporting vocals ... on Clip 1 they are in tune ... supporting. On Clip 2 they are are out of tune ... something like leading ... or loud ...
That is a great “observation” Vlado. I can hear it too!
I prefer clip 1 which is the Blue Jeans cables.
To me it’s clear after the first seconds that clip 1 is a lot less stiff and have better flow than clip 2, and their voices has more nuances and more emotion, but then I have heard the difference at home and know what to listen for.
Spannko wrote: ↑2020-07-14 22:24
There seems to be a growing following for the Design a Cable Catsnake cat6a with a floating shield. Has anyone heard it?
kallesprätt wrote: ↑2020-06-25 14:30
Here we go again!
"1" Better or worse than "2"
Ah! I forgot that you’ve already compared the catsnake to the microconnect.
I know nearly everyone preferred the microconnect, but I found them very close, with a slight preference for the catsnake. However, I agree with everyone that the bjc is quite a bit better than the microconnect, so it looks like the bjc is the current Lejonklou forum favourite.
Some time ago I did a bjc and Meicord shootout where the Meicord was preferred by everyone who voted. I’ll record the cables again and see what people think this time round.