Playground for practical listening exercises

[Defender]

wow that was fast - thats also what I hear - can I borrow your ears for another one please?

Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6dr6wtcz7evd ... 3.mov?dl=0

Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eq8o14zdr84bb ... 3.mov?dl=0

[V.A.MKD]

To me original feet is the better solution.

+1

[V.A.MKD]

wow that was fast - thats also what I hear - can I borrow your ears for another one please?

Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6dr6wtcz7evd ... 3.mov?dl=0

Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eq8o14zdr84bb ... 3.mov?dl=0

Clip 2 says my ears ... :-)

[AlbannachFE]

SNIP

So back to these three clips. I knew that there would be some interesting takes on them because of what they are and I was certainly right! So the quick breakdown:
Clip A My original US "Aqualung" album. Almost certainly a first pressing as I bought it as soon as it was released.
Clip B The 25th anniversary "Aqualung" remixed by Steven Wilson from 24/96 digital masters of the original multi-track analog tapes
Clip C The same record as Clip B, but with all Lejonklou AC cables instead of Linn Longwells on the Sagatun Monos and Tundra Monos

Clip A and B were meant to be fun and to prove a point - that records from well mastered digital tapes can be quite musical. I'm still not 100% sure which I like better as I haven't just relaxed and listened through a whole side of each. But I surprised myself by tending towards the 25th anniversary version and that is the one which will go to the show. So something to poke a little fun at analog purism - including my own.

Steven Wilson is a brilliant remixer and always attempts to not modernize the sound but to make it sound more like what the artists originally envisioned. The artists he has remixed for, including King Crimson, ELP, Yes, Genesis, Tears for Fears, etc. have all been quite pleased with his results. So, yes, as some noticed it actually is a bit different version. I do think it is one that serves the music and I did like it more in the room.

Clip C is also controversial but there is likely reason for that. In room I definitely preferred Clip C as I felt everything worked together musically more than Clip B. Some might have sensed my preference from the length of Clip C. On the other hand, the Lejonklou cables were just unwrapped prior to plugging them in. So they weren't burnt in and were cold. They also hadn't time to relax from their folded up state. I'm quite sure this helped some of the varying opinions on B and C from all of you. I just didn't have time to burn them in first and wanted to get them in the system so they are ready for Axpona.

Finally, I can't claim Bella settled down for C because she liked it better. It is more like she was trying to get my attention on Clip B so I would let her outside, which I did while I switched cables. But she didn't seem overly impressed with Clip A. Also I hadn't noticed I cut off the first part of Clip A, but such is the problem when trying to navigate back to your seat around the dog and get there in time to start the recording. The 11 second clip where I nearly tripped over her was deleted. :-)

I thought it sounded almost like different recordings! Seems that I really don't like Wilson's remaster - still the original for me.

Sorry, Bella! :-)

[beck]

wow that was fast - thats also what I hear - can I borrow your ears for another one please?

Clip 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6dr6wtcz7evd ... 3.mov?dl=0

Clip 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eq8o14zdr84bb ... 3.mov?dl=0

Clip 2 says my ears ... :-)

My ears agree.....

[Defender]

thank you - its funny I have difficulties to sometimes decide live - if I upload the files and hear it by myself its easier. It seems I need a disconnect from my system.

[beck]

thank you - its funny I have difficulties to sometimes decide live - if I upload the files and hear it by myself its easier. It seems I need a disconnect from my system.

Exactly what most of us experience when using clips. :-)

[Charlie1]

To me original feet is the better solution.

+1

+1

[markiteight]

To me original feet is the better solution.

+1

[Charlie1]

My ears agree.....

My ears agree with your ears....

[Charlie1]

thank you - its funny I have difficulties to sometimes decide live - if I upload the files and hear it by myself its easier. It seems I need a disconnect from my system.

Exactly what most of us experience when using clips. :-)

Yeah, I don't share everything I compare (believe it or not 😁) as I also find it easier via a recording.

[markiteight]

Things are happening so fast in this thread, I hope I don't step on any toes with this post!

Here's a couple clips comparing a change I made to the speakers. The change is permanent so I hope you agree it's an improvement!

Clip 1:
A: https://youtu.be/KdzGwA99H0Y
B: https://youtu.be/G9Y6zok6IRc

Clip 2:
A: https://youtu.be/BY_PW0-YkNA
B: https://youtu.be/5gmkCHz1zcA

Enjoy!

[beck]

Aaaahhhhh.........

I would like so much to say that the B clips are so much better than the A clips but there is something I still like more from the A clips. It is easier for me to get into the music (timing issue?) even though the A clips are less clear and less controlled......

Maybe it is just me. It would not be the first time I get something wrong..... ;-)

[Charlie1]

I'm preferring B.

[tokenbrit]

Clip 2 says my ears ... :-)

My ears agree.....

My ears agree with your ears....

These 'ere ears agree with all yours ears.... :)

[tokenbrit]

.. there is something I still like more from the A clips. It is easier for me to get into the music (timing issue?) even though the A clips are less clear and less controlled......

Agree with beck. Sorry: B sounds better but the timing has been thrown off which upsets the music so A wins. Hopefully an adjustment to the speaker position might bring the timing back into better alignment while retaining the clearer voicing.

Just a thought: Youtube applies compression that may affect the clips differently - do comments match what you hear in room, or differ? Do the original clips show the same characteristics as listening on Youtube?

[Spannko]

Aaaahhhhh.........

I would like so much to say that the B clips are so much better than the A clips but there is something I still like more from the A clips. It is easier for me to get into the music (timing issue?) even though the A clips are less clear and less controlled......

Maybe it is just me. It would not be the first time I get something wrong..... ;-)

+1

[lejonklou]

Things are happening so fast in this thread, I hope I don't step on any toes with this post!

Here's a couple clips comparing a change I made to the speakers. The change is permanent so I hope you agree it's an improvement!

Clip 1:
A: https://youtu.be/KdzGwA99H0Y
B: https://youtu.be/G9Y6zok6IRc

Clip 2:
A: https://youtu.be/BY_PW0-YkNA
B: https://youtu.be/5gmkCHz1zcA

Enjoy!

I vote for A.

[beck]

I cross my fingers that A is the upgraded version! :-)

[OscarH]

today I did an experiment with the supporting feets of the Lingo 2 - what do you think?

Clip 1 (Modification)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/net7sb9qh7ici ... 5.mov?dl=0

Clip 2 (Original)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/98mvmtg9m4rih ... 9.mov?dl=0

Standard/Original for me.

On your next set of clips I honestly can’t tell...

[V.A.MKD]

Things are happening so fast in this thread, I hope I don't step on any toes with this post!

Here's a couple clips comparing a change I made to the speakers. The change is permanent so I hope you agree it's an improvement!

Clip 1:
A: https://youtu.be/KdzGwA99H0Y
B: https://youtu.be/G9Y6zok6IRc

Clip 2:
A: https://youtu.be/BY_PW0-YkNA
B: https://youtu.be/5gmkCHz1zcA

Enjoy!

For me A, on a basis of Clip 1.
Clip A is more musical, Clip B more HiFi, mechanical ...

[OscarH]

Things are happening so fast in this thread, I hope I don't step on any toes with this post!

Here's a couple clips comparing a change I made to the speakers. The change is permanent so I hope you agree it's an improvement!

Clip 1:
A: https://youtu.be/KdzGwA99H0Y
B: https://youtu.be/G9Y6zok6IRc

Clip 2:
A: https://youtu.be/BY_PW0-YkNA
B: https://youtu.be/5gmkCHz1zcA

Enjoy!

I find the A clips more harmonic. In this context I believe that’s a synonym for ‘tuneful’.

(Disclaimer: my tune dem CV is very short)

[Charlie1]

Had another listen and B still makes more sense to me. Thought maybe it was my phone last night. Oh well.

[beck]

Had another listen and B still makes more sense to me. Thought maybe it was my phone last night. Oh well.

And this is what it is all about......we have to try and try again. We are only going to be at our best if we keep an open mind and always allow for the possibillity that the few are right and the many are wrong.....

This is what makes this place something special. I am almost never totally certain when making a choice.


When in doubt, follow your nose:

long term listening in the room is the final way of finding out if a change is satisfying......

[Freddy]

Things are happening so fast in this thread, I hope I don't step on any toes with this post!

Here's a couple clips comparing a change I made to the speakers. The change is permanent so I hope you agree it's an improvement!

Clip 1:
A: https://youtu.be/KdzGwA99H0Y
B: https://youtu.be/G9Y6zok6IRc

Clip 2:
A: https://youtu.be/BY_PW0-YkNA
B: https://youtu.be/5gmkCHz1zcA

Enjoy!

I like A better, somehow better timing