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Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 11:38
by beck
Not on topic but to me Linn Akudorik and Akubarik are fantastic speakers in passive setups.

Sadly they do not in passive form fit into Linn’s business plan. They sound too good! :-)

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 12:21
by kallesprätt

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 12:30
by Tendaberry
The first one flows better for me.

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 12:31
by OscarH
kallesprätt wrote: 2020-02-26 12:21 Which one do you prefer?

/Kallesprätt
Clip 1. To me it’s more direct, easier to follow the bass, the trumpet and the inimitable sound of his female backup singers.

Not sure what it is about those backup arrangements... he must have used many different singers through the years but the sound is so easily recognizable.

Might have walked through a door marked ‘trap’ here...

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 12:45
by Defender
ThomasOK wrote: 2020-02-25 20:23
Clip 1 was the system as just described, Clip 2 was the same exact active part of the system but with the power cable removed from the CD12! Yes, it does make that much difference. No, I didn't expect it (it was Simon's idea) nor can I really explain it.

In room there is no question that unplugging the CD12 improves things with more impact to the drums and bass, more tonality to the bess and more natural blend of the two voices when Eric joins in. I think this may be a trap but only in the sense that the increased clarity makes you think it is more Hi-Fi and less music. In room there is no question that this is not true.
Hi Thomas thank you for giving those insides. Actually I was somehow getting frustrated asking myself if I really know what TuneDem means ... but I am 100% sure I know.
The other part of the story is if I can really hear it as I was wrong too often in the last cases ... so much that I got consistent of being wrong ;)
Consistency can have an advantage even with being wrong - so I thought I just have to make my mind up and than just choose the opposite clip of what I think is the more musical one.

However I hear more emotion in the voices in clip 1 but clip 2 is cleaner, more focussed and especially when the two voices sing its more easy to follow both.

But its really wonderful to have many opinions and to have those clips as teaching tools.

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 12:48
by V.A.MKD
kallesprätt wrote: 2020-02-26 12:21 Which one do you prefer?
/Kallesprätt
I choose First one ...

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 12:50
by Defender
Clip 1 flows better for me too ... I dont think thats a trap
for me most obvious while following the instruments short before his voice comes in at around 0.25-0.29min

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 12:55
by V.A.MKD
maffe wrote: 2020-02-25 16:35 Ok better or worst and I’m not talking about music chosen ;)

1a
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8Mv ... R-1280.mp4
1b
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DSC ... h-1280.mp4

Tfl!
I listen only 1 and can't make final decision ... it's difficult ... maybe later ... something is ...

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 17:12
by maffe
Kaos in position, let’s listen to music!
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Clips coming soon:)

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 17:20
by V.A.MKD
maffe wrote: 2020-02-26 17:12 Kaos in position, let’s listen to music!
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Clips coming soon:)
Who have pole position???

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 17:24
by maffe
V.A.MKD wrote: 2020-02-26 17:20 Who have pole position???
Was that a rhetorical question?
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Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 17:34
by V.A.MKD
maffe wrote: 2020-02-26 17:24
V.A.MKD wrote: 2020-02-26 17:20 Who have pole position???
Was that a rhetorical question?
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I know it, that look ...

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 17:37
by maffe

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 17:42
by lejonklou
maffe wrote: 2020-02-26 17:37 Ok, clips uploaded.
A variation of yesterday’s clips.
Would you mind letting us know what a and b was? I think there was 100% vote for a?

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 17:46
by lejonklou
I think the first one is a little better.

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 18:03
by beck
To maffe:

In your latest clips 3a is a picture of your cat. I have a hard time comparing it to 3b! :-)

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 18:13
by maffe
beck wrote: 2020-02-26 18:03 To maffe:

In your latest clips 3a is a picture of your cat. I have a hard time comparing it to 3b! :-)
Thx!
Link replaced:)

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 18:14
by maffe
lejonklou wrote: 2020-02-26 17:42
maffe wrote: 2020-02-26 17:37 Ok, clips uploaded.
A variation of yesterday’s clips.
Would you mind letting us know what a and b was? I think there was 100% vote for a?
Kaos inspecting two Slipsiks
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Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 18:21
by beck
Yes, I can now hear the trap (recording) I might have fallen in, as with the ThomasOk clips! Maybe we (I) are reaching a kind of limit when differences are small? Or I have to adjust......

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 18:37
by Charlie1

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 18:56
by maffe
beck wrote: 2020-02-26 18:21 Yes, I can now hear the trap (recording) I might have fallen in, as with the ThomasOk clips! Maybe we (I) are reaching a kind of limit when differences are small? Or I have to adjust......
Don’t think you have fallen into any trap!
Testing different variations with one vs two slipsik

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 19:00
by lejonklou

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 20:18
by ThomasOK
I agree with Kaos, A is better on both. Both are good but I get into A more. Now that I know what you are doing I will be double interested in the results when you give a FULL reveal.

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 20:24
by ThomasOK
lejonklou wrote: 2020-02-26 17:46
I think the first one is a little better.
Me too! The fat bass in clip 2 is fun but it seems a bit out of tune compared to clip 1.

Re: Playground for practical listening exercices

Posted: 2020-02-26 20:32
by OscarH
maffe wrote: 2020-02-26 17:24
V.A.MKD wrote: 2020-02-26 17:20 Who have pole position???
Was that a rhetorical question?
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An entirely non-rhetorical question: what are the play/pause/next/previous buttons on a Lejonklou remote used for?