Playground for practical listening exercises

Errol · Post by **Errol** » 2024-09-19 11:21

These are my first clips here. I made a change that is hard to revert but I'd like to hear opinions which one is better in both sets. Did I go wrong direction or not... A or C ?

first set:
A https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xcxvgajf ... y84ih&dl=0
C https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/djz0im9d ... rhstr&dl=0

second set:
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Whatsmynaim · Post by **Whatsmynaim** » 2024-09-19 13:38

It took a while to decide but I think I prefer A on both.
Just a though. If it's possible to achieve something in between the two different presentations maybe that would be the clear winner?

tokenbrit · Post by **tokenbrit** » 2024-09-19 16:21

A for me too - better musical flow; song(s) felt more together, on the same rhythm, as opposed to the musicians playing independently... C seemed to bring forward parts of the song, so could sound better, but at the expense of the overall timing, to my ears.

tpetsch · Post by **tpetsch** » 2024-09-19 16:43

First set: B. ...Second set: A.

Post by **lejonklou** » 2024-09-19 21:09

I prefer A on both clips.

C sound more like a live concert. Cool sound! But they loose the tightness and precise interplay that I hear in A.

Charlie1 · Post by **Charlie1** » 2024-09-19 22:48

Preferred C on first set. Couldn’t open one of the clips on second set

EDIT: work on mac. Prefer A on second set.

Post by **markiteight** » 2024-09-20 00:23

I prefer A on both.

With the first clip the choice was easy. With the 2nd, C was making a compelling argument but switching back to A was better.

Tendaberry · Post by **Tendaberry** » 2024-09-20 10:12

I prefer A on both, better musical flow.

Errol · Post by **Errol** » 2024-09-20 10:56

Thanks for your comments. It was as expected. I'll still need to do another files but not until next week.
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Spannko · Post by **Spannko** » 2024-09-20 12:10

What are we listening to?

Errol · Post by **Errol** » 2024-09-20 14:05

Spannko wrote: ↑2024-09-20 12:10 What are we listening to?

As you might guess from the recent post to Hakai thread, I'm still happy user of debian-on-HAKAI -version. This belongs to series "Don't fix it, if it's not broken"... a.k.a took a plunge for version upgrades... let's see if I can maintain the original musicality but more about this on next week.
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Spannko · Post by **Spannko** » 2024-09-20 20:12

Errol wrote: ↑2024-09-20 14:05
Spannko wrote: ↑2024-09-20 12:10 What are we listening to?
As you might guess from the recent post to Hakai thread, I'm still happy user of debian-on-HAKAI -version. This belongs to series "Don't fix it, if it's not broken"... a.k.a took a plunge for version upgrades... let's see if I can maintain the original musicality but more about this on next week.
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Which pre-amp, interconnects, stands etc? And what was the change?

Spannko · Post by **Spannko** » 2024-09-20 22:31

Of the two, I prefer C, finding that A sounds a bit laboured, lifeless and less tuneful in comparison.

Errol · Post by **Errol** » 2024-09-21 05:03

Rest of the system is Kikkin upgraded to latest version, 308s on M109 stands with skeets, interconnects local (retired) Linn retailer's own make and rca-xlr Roland instrument cables (not tried any other so far). Modem is TP link MR200.
The change is debian version upgrade from 10(=A)to 12(=C).
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Post by **markiteight** » 2024-09-21 23:37

Errol wrote: ↑2024-09-21 05:03 Rest of the system is Kikkin upgraded to latest version, 308s on M109 stands with skeets, interconnects local (retired) Linn retailer's own make and rca-xlr Roland instrument cables (not tried any other so far). Modem is TP link MR200.
The change is debian version upgrade from 10(=A)to 12(=C).
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I like your taste in systems ;-)

Spannko · Post by **Spannko** » 2024-09-22 19:56

Errol wrote: ↑2024-09-21 05:03 Rest of the system is Kikkin upgraded to latest version, 308s on M109 stands with skeets, interconnects local (retired) Linn retailer's own make and rca-xlr Roland instrument cables (not tried any other so far). Modem is TP link MR200.
The change is debian version upgrade from 10(=A)to 12(=C).
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Will you be trying Linn Siver/Black interconnects to your Kikkin and Linn RCA plugs/Linn Black Analog cable/Neutrik XLR to your 308’s

Errol · Post by **Errol** » 2024-09-24 14:09

Spannko wrote: ↑2024-09-22 19:56
Will you be trying Linn Siver/Black interconnects to your Kikkin and Linn RCA plugs/Linn Black Analog cable/Neutrik XLR to your 308’s

Yes, rca-xlr will be next move but no hurry..

Errol · Post by **Errol** » 2024-09-24 14:11

and now, any real difference with these two:
E30 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/aast3b0f ... 21lwf&dl=0
E32 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pageenj8 ... lh9gd&dl=0

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Whatsmynaim · Post by **Whatsmynaim** » 2024-09-24 14:50

I prefer E30, it got better timing and is more in tune.

tpetsch · Post by **tpetsch** » 2024-09-24 16:00

E32 for me. E30 has timing issues, the band struggles to keep up when it all gets going.

Spannko · Post by **Spannko** » 2024-09-24 16:27

E32 for me too.

tokenbrit · Post by **tokenbrit** » 2024-09-24 18:02

E30 for me

Different DACs, or a BMW ref: E30 3-series; E32 7-series? :)

ThomasOK · Post by **ThomasOK** » 2024-09-24 18:08

I could only listen to the first two clips from 9/19. I prefer A. The C clip sounds cleaner and a bit more forward but A flows better and I find the voice more expressive.

ThomasOK · Post by **ThomasOK** » 2024-09-24 18:14

I definitely prefer £30 over £32. I started playing £30 planning to listen to 15 seconds or so but was forced to listen until the end - and I didn't want it to end. I played £32 and had to force myself to listen until the vocals came in. Then I went back and played £30 again. Lovely clip!

ThomasOK · Post by **ThomasOK** » 2024-09-24 18:29

Yes, they did have glass shelves, at one point both frosted and clear. I was told that glass was worse but did some comparisons with a glass shelf on the top of my rack and found the glass to be more musical than the mdf. I don't have those around anymore and wasn't able to compare glass to bamboo.

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