Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)

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Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)

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I enjoyed A & Y, and didn’t like B & X. Lovely light display as well, it really set the mood!
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Listened a few times - enough to confuse myself - but ended up with B&Y, myself... agreed on the lights tho' :)
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I preferred A to B: I found the vocal style came across really well in A, but it sounded a bit affected in B. There's a 'flick' of guitar at about 8s that seems distracting in B but fitting in A.

I preferred X to Y: Y sounds a bit brighter and I wasn't drawn into the track, but X was enjoyable and kept me listening. In Y I could hear the different instruments a little more easily but they work a little less as a whole compared to X.

I liked both tracks. What are they?
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I prefer A and Y. Love your videos and the lighting!

.........and Merry Christmas to you too Leo. :-)
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beck wrote: 2020-12-16 11:01 I prefer A and Y. Love your videos and the lighting!

.........and Merry Christmas to you too Leo. :-)
A very merry Xmas to you also Beck , easier than sending cards :0) and all the best in the new year
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springwood64 wrote: 2020-12-16 08:26 I preferred A to B: I found the vocal style came across really well in A, but it sounded a bit affected in B. There's a 'flick' of guitar at about 8s that seems distracting in B but fitting in A.

I preferred X to Y: Y sounds a bit brighter and I wasn't drawn into the track, but X was enjoyable and kept me listening. In Y I could hear the different instruments a little more easily but they work a little less as a whole compared to X.

I liked both tracks. What are they?
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tokenbrit wrote: 2020-12-16 02:07 Listened a few times - enough to confuse myself - but ended up with B&Y, myself... agreed on the lights tho' :)
It is difficult when we have to put tune dem to the test.Merry Xmas Tokenbrit
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Spannko wrote: 2020-12-16 00:36 I enjoyed A & Y, and didn’t like B & X. Lovely light display as well, it really set the mood!
Many thanks Spannko and merry Xmas !
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Lego wrote: 2020-12-17 00:18
tokenbrit wrote: 2020-12-16 02:07 Listened a few times - enough to confuse myself - but ended up with B&Y, myself... agreed on the lights tho' :)
It is difficult when we have to put tune dem to the test.Merry Xmas Tokenbrit
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I find it very difficult to hear a worthwhile difference. They are both good. Yet another great track.

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I prefer C. (I hope I am picking the cheap one). :-)
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C I think.

I get the impression that the bass is a bit boomy on D, though I’m not sure that’s a characteristic which can be accurately assessed via a clip.
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C for me too.

Out of interest, is the HD+ NOS too, or is this oversampling vs. non, as well as China-cheap vs. Gigaport?
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OK, I’m going to gamble everything for glory now 🤣

I’m saying A, Y, C & D are the same and B & X are the same. I know there’s a big chance I’m wrong, but I found C & D to sound very similar with the same sort of sound and musicality as A & Y, whereas B & X sound quite different. 🤞
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Well, it will not be the first time I have been lured into the C,D trap if it is such.

The thing is that we listen for differences when presented with options that should be different. C and D does sound very similar.
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Spannko wrote: 2020-12-19 02:23 OK, I’m going to gamble everything for glory now 🤣

I’m saying A, Y, C & D are the same and B & X are the same. I know there’s a big chance I’m wrong, but I found C & D to sound very similar with the same sort of sound and musicality as A & Y, whereas B & X sound quite different. 🤞
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Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)

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Anyway, Spannko is mostly right .

HD+(Supra Cable)

A Y C

Generic DAC

B X D

The reason I post clips is I cant come to a conclusion.

It's not tune dem but when I replaced the HD with the NOS I found myself struggling to turn the music off,a bit like being on Facebook,I'm there longer than I planned.

On blind listening, the NOS feels slower so I find it easier to follow the melody and always seem to hum along.
When I put the HD back it sounds very tuneful and more impressive with good rhythm and interplay ,but I keep wanting to try the Nos again. On one particular album, the NOS recreated that feeling I had when I first listened to the album, not by way of similar sound but similar emotion, a bit like being on the first few dates(distortion attraction ?) :0)

This is why I never like having 2 similar items at home
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tokenbrit wrote: 2020-12-18 23:19 C for me too.

Out of interest, is the HD+ NOS too, or is this oversampling vs. non, as well as China-cheap vs. Gigaport?
I'm not sure how the DACS work Tokenbrit
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Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)

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What interest me the most is the C versus D comparison. I find both interesting and enjoyable.

I can actually hear what you are talking about Leo. It is as if C is slightly too tight (if that makes any sense) and D just a little slow as you say (broadening everything out a little bit).

A middleground between the two could be just perfect...............
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beck wrote: 2020-12-19 12:49 What interest me the most is the C versus D comparison. I find both interesting and enjoyable.

I can actually hear what you are talking about Leo. It is as if C is slightly too tight (if that makes any sense) and D just a little slow as you say (broadening everything out a little bit).

A middleground between the two could be just perfect...............
Exactly Beck though C isn't too tight,C is fine I just can't stop thinking about D 😄... I'll do another clip with similar usb cables this time.
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I tried listening to C & D yesterday and was having a hard time - it was the end of a busy day. I tried again just now and they are both good but I find D moves me more.
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Lego wrote: 2020-12-19 18:18 ... I'll do another clip with similar usb cables this time.
I meant to ask what usb cable(s) you're using... My HD+ is connected with the cable that came with it rather than the recommended Supra as I was put off by reports of quality issues with (more than?) a few of them.
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Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)

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ThomasOK wrote: 2020-12-19 18:52 I tried listening to C & D yesterday and was having a hard time - it was the end of a busy day. I tried again just now and they are both good but I find D moves me more.
Yes, it’s interesting that on this particular track C&D are so close, when on the first two tracks there is an appreciable difference. I don’t understand it tbh.
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