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Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-15 20:12
by Lego
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-16 00:36
by Spannko
I enjoyed A & Y, and didn’t like B & X. Lovely light display as well, it really set the mood!
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-16 02:07
by tokenbrit
Listened a few times - enough to confuse myself - but ended up with B&Y, myself... agreed on the lights tho' :)
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-16 08:26
by springwood64
I preferred A to B: I found the vocal style came across really well in A, but it sounded a bit affected in B. There's a 'flick' of guitar at about 8s that seems distracting in B but fitting in A.
I preferred X to Y: Y sounds a bit brighter and I wasn't drawn into the track, but X was enjoyable and kept me listening. In Y I could hear the different instruments a little more easily but they work a little less as a whole compared to X.
I liked both tracks. What are they?
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-16 11:01
by beck
I prefer A and Y. Love your videos and the lighting!
.........and Merry Christmas to you too Leo. :-)
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 00:01
by Lego
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 00:03
by Lego
beck wrote: ↑2020-12-16 11:01
I prefer A and Y. Love your videos and the lighting!
.........and Merry Christmas to you too Leo. :-)
A very merry Xmas to you also Beck , easier than sending cards :0) and all the best in the new year
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 00:16
by Lego
springwood64 wrote: ↑2020-12-16 08:26
I preferred A to B: I found the vocal style came across really well in A, but it sounded a bit affected in B. There's a 'flick' of guitar at about 8s that seems distracting in B but fitting in A.
I preferred X to Y: Y sounds a bit brighter and I wasn't drawn into the track, but X was enjoyable and kept me listening. In Y I could hear the different instruments a little more easily but they work a little less as a whole compared to X.
I liked both tracks. What are they?
Hi Peter it's Gil Scott-Heron and Pops Staples.Glad you liked it and merry Xmas
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 00:18
by Lego
tokenbrit wrote: ↑2020-12-16 02:07
Listened a few times - enough to confuse myself - but ended up with B&Y, myself... agreed on the lights tho' :)
It is difficult when we have to put tune dem to the test.Merry Xmas Tokenbrit
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 00:19
by Lego
Spannko wrote: ↑2020-12-16 00:36
I enjoyed A & Y, and didn’t like B & X. Lovely light display as well, it really set the mood!
Many thanks Spannko and merry Xmas !
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 01:49
by tokenbrit
Lego wrote: ↑2020-12-17 00:18
tokenbrit wrote: ↑2020-12-16 02:07
Listened a few times - enough to confuse myself - but ended up with B&Y, myself... agreed on the lights tho' :)
It is difficult when we have to put tune dem to the test.Merry Xmas Tokenbrit
Sometimes it's easy, other times not so much :/ But we don't learn unless we test ourselves, so it's always worthwhile ;)
Thanks Lego. And to you: wishing you a merry Xmas, happy holidays, and a musical New Year :)
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 11:41
by springwood64
I find it very difficult to hear a worthwhile difference. They are both good. Yet another great track.
Merry Xmas!
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 12:38
by beck
I prefer C. (I hope I am picking the cheap one). :-)
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-17 15:54
by OscarH
C I think.
I get the impression that the bass is a bit boomy on D, though I’m not sure that’s a characteristic which can be accurately assessed via a clip.
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-18 23:19
by tokenbrit
C for me too.
Out of interest, is the HD+ NOS too, or is this oversampling vs. non, as well as China-cheap vs. Gigaport?
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 02:23
by Spannko
OK, I’m going to gamble everything for glory now 🤣
I’m saying A, Y, C & D are the same and B & X are the same. I know there’s a big chance I’m wrong, but I found C & D to sound very similar with the same sort of sound and musicality as A & Y, whereas B & X sound quite different. 🤞
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 05:13
by beck
Well, it will not be the first time I have been lured into the C,D trap if it is such.
The thing is that we listen for differences when presented with options that should be different. C and D does sound very similar.
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 11:45
by Lego
Spannko wrote: ↑2020-12-19 02:23
OK, I’m going to gamble everything for glory now 🤣
I’m saying A, Y, C & D are the same and B & X are the same. I know there’s a big chance I’m wrong, but I found C & D to sound very similar with the same sort of sound and musicality as A & Y, whereas B & X sound quite different. 🤞
Jeez Spannko,still trying to decipher that 😁
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 12:24
by Lego
Anyway, Spannko is mostly right .
HD+(Supra Cable)
A Y C
Generic DAC
B X D
The reason I post clips is I cant come to a conclusion.
It's not tune dem but when I replaced the HD with the NOS I found myself struggling to turn the music off,a bit like being on Facebook,I'm there longer than I planned.
On blind listening, the NOS feels slower so I find it easier to follow the melody and always seem to hum along.
When I put the HD back it sounds very tuneful and more impressive with good rhythm and interplay ,but I keep wanting to try the Nos again. On one particular album, the NOS recreated that feeling I had when I first listened to the album, not by way of similar sound but similar emotion, a bit like being on the first few dates(distortion attraction ?) :0)
This is why I never like having 2 similar items at home
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 12:29
by Lego
tokenbrit wrote: ↑2020-12-18 23:19
C for me too.
Out of interest, is the HD+ NOS too, or is this oversampling vs. non, as well as China-cheap vs. Gigaport?
I'm not sure how the DACS work Tokenbrit
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 12:49
by beck
What interest me the most is the C versus D comparison. I find both interesting and enjoyable.
I can actually hear what you are talking about Leo. It is as if C is slightly too tight (if that makes any sense) and D just a little slow as you say (broadening everything out a little bit).
A middleground between the two could be just perfect...............
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 18:18
by Lego
beck wrote: ↑2020-12-19 12:49
What interest me the most is the C versus D comparison. I find both interesting and enjoyable.
I can actually hear what you are talking about Leo. It is as if C is slightly too tight (if that makes any sense) and D just a little slow as you say (broadening everything out a little bit).
A middleground between the two could be just perfect...............
Exactly Beck though C isn't too tight,C is fine I just can't stop thinking about D 😄... I'll do another clip with similar usb cables this time.
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 18:52
by ThomasOK
I tried listening to C & D yesterday and was having a hard time - it was the end of a busy day. I tried again just now and they are both good but I find D moves me more.
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 22:19
by tokenbrit
Lego wrote: ↑2020-12-19 18:18
... I'll do another clip with similar usb cables this time.
I meant to ask what usb cable(s) you're using... My HD+ is connected with the cable that came with it rather than the recommended Supra as I was put off by reports of quality issues with (more than?) a few of them.
Re: Gigaport HD+ vs Cheap NOS DAC from CHINA!(results sat 19th Dec)
Posted: 2020-12-19 23:14
by Spannko
ThomasOK wrote: ↑2020-12-19 18:52
I tried listening to C & D yesterday and was having a hard time - it was the end of a busy day. I tried again just now and they are both good but I find D moves me more.
Yes, it’s interesting that on this particular track C&D are so close, when on the first two tracks there is an appreciable difference. I don’t understand it tbh.