Re: HAKAI playground
Posted: 2021-02-05 01:20
I prefer 0
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With Spotify I prefer 1. The fiddle seems more expressive during the opening and there's more swing when the rest of the band joins in.tokenbrit wrote: â2021-02-05 00:37 Do you prefer 0 or 1?
Spotify
0a - https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1at8rjr1sdz7rb/0a.mp4?dl=0
1a - https://www.dropbox.com/s/cyk21n0xf6czrml/1a.mp4?dl=0
NAS
0b - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymgxmhsr37xmrdy/0b.mp4?dl=0
1b - https://www.dropbox.com/s/z55fyklsgcwz4nu/1b.mp4?dl=0
0c - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0gjanvi5vcikuly/0c.mp4?dl=0
1c - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ohml8b9ud6pmnw/1c.mp4?dl=0
Reveal on Sat a.m. (US)
The reveal, as promised: (drum roll, please :)tokenbrit wrote: â2021-02-05 00:37 Do you prefer 0 or 1?
Spotify
0a - https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1at8rjr1sdz7rb/0a.mp4?dl=0
1a - https://www.dropbox.com/s/cyk21n0xf6czrml/1a.mp4?dl=0
NAS
0b - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymgxmhsr37xmrdy/0b.mp4?dl=0
1b - https://www.dropbox.com/s/z55fyklsgcwz4nu/1b.mp4?dl=0
0c - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0gjanvi5vcikuly/0c.mp4?dl=0
1c - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ohml8b9ud6pmnw/1c.mp4?dl=0
Reveal on Sat a.m. (US)
Feels like I'm in the bar car on Pinky's train; maybe the restaurant car on Perky's... I'm going to have a hangover after Pinky's but I'll have enjoyed the party - woo woo :)David Neel wrote: â2021-02-06 18:46 Pinky: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7176okmvf5oas ... 1.mp4?dl=0
Perky: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6ky8l8bysqk3 ... 9.mp4?dl=0
I've been lightly tweaking my digital bits, which led to this comparison...
Punch rather than Judy for me (just noticed: I agree with beck... unusual for me :)David Neel wrote: â2021-02-07 15:49 Punch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m15qdmc3n9qjt ... 9.mp4?dl=0
Judy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4yv2jdzmgljn ... 9.mp4?dl=0
Don't be distracted by the turntable! This is a purely digital comparison.
My mistake on the previous page - it was actually Buster, and not Stretch, in A and C above. And the (almost) consensus was that Volumio was better.David Neel wrote: â2021-01-26 21:03 The differences were that A and C had the Hakai running a 300GB Intel 320 with Debian Stretch, controlled from Kazoo via AssetUPnP on the LSNAS. B and D were from a 160GB Intel 320 with Volumio 2.411 running MPD 21.16, with Volumio accessing the files directly.
Although I had done this comparison a while back, and chosen Volumio, I had been getting dissatisfied recently, so went back to Debian. However, doing the comparison has lifted the performance of Volumio over what I've been hearing recently...
Curious that the changes changed the result(s) - one might expect that hardware changes would improve both; not reverse previous preferences. Results for my clips, above, echoed your latest results... One thing I have found is that the Linux kernel image changes the sound, which is why I stayed with 4.19.0-9 - have you done any software or firmware updates to your Buster install since the A and C comparison?David Neel wrote: â2021-02-07 20:52 .. on the previous page - it was actually Buster, and not Stretch, in A and C above. And the (almost) consensus was that Volumio was better.
Since then, I have made some material changes in both LSNAS and Hakai. First, I've eliminated the internal extension power cord between the LSNAS PSU and the rear of the Node 304 case, the power cord now goes through a hole which used to be a vent in the side of the case. Second, the Hakai motherboard is now a N3050N-D2P instead of N3160N. Finally, the Hakai is now built into a Streacom FC8 Alpha case rather than FC1 Evo. I have felt that each of these changes has been a step forward.
You have been listening to the same two SSDs again. This time, however, the (almost) consensus is for Debian...
No changes have been made to either SSD since the A and C comparison. Yes, it's curious that the results have changed - but I feel that the earlier clips may have been less representative of what was happening in the room?tokenbrit wrote: â2021-02-08 16:40 Curious that the changes changed the result(s) - one might expect that hardware changes would improve both; not reverse previous preferences. Results for my clips, above, echoed your latest results... One thing I have found is that the Linux kernel image changes the sound, which is why I stayed with 4.19.0-9 - have you done any software or firmware updates to your Buster install since the A and C comparison?
I'm interested in the FC8 (& where you got the N3050 ;) - looks like there's more room, and better horizontal mounting for the SSD(s)... Any chance of some photos of the installation in your case?
Happy to share what Debian variables I found work for me here, if you're interested... to either prove or disprove ;)David Neel wrote: â2021-02-08 20:15 Next steps will be to re-examine the Debian variables, to see if there are more improvements to be had. Watch this space...
Punch for me too.tokenbrit wrote: â2021-02-07 18:56Punch rather than Judy for me (just noticed: I agree with beck... unusual for me :)David Neel wrote: â2021-02-07 15:49 Punch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m15qdmc3n9qjt ... 9.mp4?dl=0
Judy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4yv2jdzmgljn ... 9.mp4?dl=0
Don't be distracted by the turntable! This is a purely digital comparison.
Looking forward to Bill & Ben and an excuse to 'relax' with those clips... ;)
"Punch" for me.David Neel wrote: â2021-02-07 15:49 Punch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m15qdmc3n9qjt ... 9.mp4?dl=0
Judy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4yv2jdzmgljn ... 9.mp4?dl=0
Don't be distracted by the turntable! This is a purely digital comparison.