HAKAI playground

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by lejonklou » 2019-04-06 07:59

NinthWave wrote:
2019-04-04 22:25
I can see clearly now
This one was one of the songs the guys at the now defunct "Audio Club" played me to show me different systems. This was in 96 and I was 22 years old and fresh out from University. I could only dream of KLOUTs and Keltik then but I got an Arcam set with AE120s. If Beck can survive his head from beeing blown off by pain until 50sec, this is when piano gets in over contrabass. :-)
  1. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_UO94 ... YAJRooWLeN
  2. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Fhr9d ... 5t3hKNY9Rh
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I liked this song, never heard it before. That was on clip A.
When I then listened to clip B, I lost interest.

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by beck » 2019-04-06 09:44

lejonklou wrote:
2019-04-06 07:47
matthias wrote:
FairPlayMotty wrote: Two clips from months ago (Volumio days). One of the two players is a Hakai. Both used the ESI Gigaport DAC. Preference?

Clip A: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yUjWQ ... 7AXgZ-aAGj

Clip B: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PFUsY ... GMqjpMQEDQ

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I prefer A.

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I prefer A
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by Tendaberry » 2019-04-06 10:57

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-05 14:53
Two clips from months ago (Volumio days). One of the two players is a Hakai. Both used the ESI Gigaport DAC. Preference?

Clip A: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yUjWQ ... 7AXgZ-aAGj

Clip B: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PFUsY ... GMqjpMQEDQ

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A for me as well, much better saxophone player there.

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by matthias » 2019-04-06 11:08

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-05 14:53
Two clips from months ago (Volumio days). One of the two players is a Hakai. Both used the ESI Gigaport DAC. Preference?

Clip A: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yUjWQ ... 7AXgZ-aAGj

Clip B: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PFUsY ... GMqjpMQEDQ

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Brian,
can you please share some info about the music played?
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by FairPlayMotty » 2019-04-06 11:17

Sure, it's Love Song from Apache by Coleman Hawkins from the album Today and Now.

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by FairPlayMotty » 2019-04-07 16:34

Clip A was the Tinker Board S with Volumio playing from the on board SSD. As I prepared it for play part of me hoped it would sound terrible but it didn't. In my view it's pure luck that the board sounds good despite being compromised by the on board SSD and the micro USB power supply.

In the next few days I will test it in my new setup sourcing the music from my Hakai server.
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by lejonklou » 2019-04-07 23:54

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-07 16:34
Clip A was the Tinker Board S with Volumio playing from the on board SSD. As I prepared it for play part of me hoped it would sound terrible but it didn't. In my view it's pure luck that the board sounds good despite being compromised by the on board SSD and the micro USB power supply.

In the next few days I will test it in my new setup sourcing the music from my Hakai server.
Nice!

Tinkerboard is a winner, been looking at and thinking about it for some time.

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by matthias » 2019-04-07 23:56

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-07 16:34
Clip A was the Tinker Board S with Volumio playing from the on board SSD. As I prepared it for play part of me hoped it would sound terrible but it didn't. In my view it's pure luck that the board sounds good despite being compromised by the on board SSD and the micro USB power supply.
In the next few days I will test it in my new setup sourcing the music from my Hakai server.
Just for clarification:
You mean Tinkerboard S with Volumio as software OR the new Volumio Primo streamer which also has Tinkerboard S inside?
Which power supply did you use?
Clip B is then HAKAI?
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by FairPlayMotty » 2019-04-08 00:31

Matt,

I used a Tinker Board S, flashed it with Volumio not the Primo. Clip B was the Hakai.
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by matthias » 2019-04-08 05:13

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-07 16:34
In the next few days I will test it in my new setup sourcing the music from my Hakai server.
Nice, looking forward, please make some clips!
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by Lego » 2019-04-08 11:10

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-08 00:31
Matt,

I used a Tinker Board S, flashed it with Volumio not the Primo. Clip B was the Hakai.
Wow!..I hope I am wrong and TB is better than Hakai
I know that tune

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by Lego » 2019-04-08 11:16

lejonklou wrote:
2019-04-07 23:54
FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-07 16:34
Clip A was the Tinker Board S with Volumio playing from the on board SSD. As I prepared it for play part of me hoped it would sound terrible but it didn't. In my view it's pure luck that the board sounds good despite being compromised by the on board SSD and the micro USB power supply.

In the next few days I will test it in my new setup sourcing the music from my Hakai server.
Nice!

Tinkerboard is a winner, been looking at and thinking about it for some time.
Have you heard it Fredrik(clips apart) and what were the features about it that piqued your interest? This is brilliant news
I know that tune

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by FairPlayMotty » 2019-04-08 17:02

Prior to discovering Snakeoil OS I looked at masses of audiophile distros. One or two were thought to sound much better than the others and superior to Volumio. The best candidates were aimed almost exclusively at the RPI. There is a good chance of them working on the Tinker Board S. I'll have a look at the URL bookmarks I saved and try a couple.
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by FairPlayMotty » 2019-04-08 17:15

This is the one people in the SBC community raved about:

https://moodeaudio.org/
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by kallesprätt » 2019-09-30 21:02

Debian 9 Stretch on Intel 320 300Gb
Upmpdcli 1.3.8
Mpd 21.3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r66vzwnow44p4 ... 1.mp4?dl=0

Snakeoil OS V 1.1.6 on Intel 320 160Gb
Upmpdcli 1.4.4
Mpd ? (I don´t know how to check)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1bevoa5tigahj ... 6.mp4?dl=0

Which one do you prefer?

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by Spannko » 2019-09-30 23:17

Debian 9

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by lejonklou » 2019-10-01 01:14

kallesprätt wrote:
2019-09-30 21:02
Debian 9 Stretch on Intel 320 300Gb
Upmpdcli 1.3.8
Mpd 21.3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r66vzwnow44p4 ... 1.mp4?dl=0

Snakeoil OS V 1.1.6 on Intel 320 160Gb
Upmpdcli 1.4.4
Mpd ? (I don´t know how to check)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1bevoa5tigahj ... 6.mp4?dl=0

Which one do you prefer?
Thank you, this is an interesting one!

I think the Snakeoil clip appears more precise and separated soundwise, which is a very common trap when tuning circuits or systems - or software. Because it has lost some of the interplay between the instruments.

So Debian 9 gets my vote.

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by matthias » 2019-10-01 09:26

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-08 17:15
This is the one people in the SBC community raved about:
https://moodeaudio.org/
The upcoming version 6.3 in October will work with the new Allo USBridge Signature as well.

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by kallesprätt » 2019-10-01 14:03

kallesprätt wrote:
2019-09-30 21:02
Debian 9 Stretch on Intel 320 300Gb
Upmpdcli 1.3.8
Mpd 21.3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r66vzwnow44p4 ... 1.mp4?dl=0

Snakeoil OS V 1.1.6 on Intel 320 160Gb
Upmpdcli 1.4.4
Mpd ? (I don´t know how to check)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1bevoa5tigahj ... 6.mp4?dl=0

Which one do you prefer?
Lets Try with:
Debian 10 Buster on Intel 320 300Gb
Upmpdcli 1.4.4
Mpd 21.5

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1clokicpp4p18 ... 8.mp4?dl=0

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by tokenbrit » 2019-10-01 14:30

I think I still prefer 9... just get a better sense of emotion in the performance(s)

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by matthias » 2019-10-02 08:38

FairPlayMotty wrote:
2019-04-08 17:15
This is the one people in the SBC community raved about:
https://moodeaudio.org/
Please share your listening impressions about MoOde, I am very curious.
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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by Spannko » 2019-10-02 11:32

Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I know very little about computers.

Was Debian9 installed on a Tinkerboard S ?

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by kallesprätt » 2019-10-02 11:35

Spannko wrote:
2019-10-02 11:32
Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I know very little about computers.

Was Debian9 installed on a Tinkerboard S ?
Debian 9 was running on a Gigabyte N3160N-D3V

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by kallesprätt » 2019-10-02 11:36

kallesprätt wrote:
2019-10-01 14:03
kallesprätt wrote:
2019-09-30 21:02
Debian 9 Stretch on Intel 320 300Gb
Upmpdcli 1.3.8
Mpd 21.3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r66vzwnow44p4 ... 1.mp4?dl=0

Snakeoil OS V 1.1.6 on Intel 320 160Gb
Upmpdcli 1.4.4
Mpd ? (I don´t know how to check)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1bevoa5tigahj ... 6.mp4?dl=0

Which one do you prefer?
Lets Try with:
Debian 10 Buster on Intel 320 300Gb
Upmpdcli 1.4.4
Mpd 21.5

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1clokicpp4p18 ... 8.mp4?dl=0
Debian 10 Buster now with:
Upmpdcli 1.4.4
Mpd 21.13

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d9260obf2ef58 ... 9.mp4?dl=0

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Re: HAKAI playground

Post by jewa » 2019-10-02 13:07

Debian 9 is still better!

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