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Volumio Spotify

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Foibles, Round 2

To continue with the learning experience that is Volumio, following on from the Volumio Volume thread, I'm not finding Volumio's Spotify plugin(s) particularly intuitive:

I appear to need both Spotify (Spotify plugin for Volumio2) *and* Volumio Spotify Connect2 (Plugin for Spotify connect in Volumio2) for Spotify to work in Volumio - can someone confirm?

Spotify appears to be the account login plugin - don't forget to authorise (& restart ;)
Spotify Connect2 seems to be the configuration/control for Spotify playback...

Otherwise, not sure why it needs both :?

Where it gets a little odd is in the discovery of Spotify on Volumio: after a restart, I can't connect to Volumio-Spotify via open.spotify.com in a browser; I have to use the Spotify app on the phone... Once I've connected via the app, Volumio-Spotify shows up in open.spotify.com, and I can control Volumio-Spotify as I would normally from the browser, or the app. It's just the initial connection that has to be via the app, it seems.

Has anyone else experienced this, or have I missed a setting (& another restart :) somewhere?
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Re: Volumio Spotify

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Never tried spotify in volumio, I mainly use my NAS and sometime qobuz on volumio.
But I will try it and report it here about the plugin
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I use Spotify Connect2 and it works fine. Anyone connected to my wifi can then control and play from their mobiles (or anything with Spotify) .
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TMV wrote: 2021-03-04 07:58 I use Spotify Connect2 and it works fine. Anyone connected to my wifi can then control and play from their mobiles (or anything with Spotify) .
TMV (or anyone else here),
Have you compared the sound quality of Spotify on your HAKAI to a home computer running the standard Spotify app?

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Ron The Mon wrote: 2021-03-04 14:46
TMV wrote: 2021-03-04 07:58 I use Spotify Connect2 and it works fine. Anyone connected to my wifi can then control and play from their mobiles (or anything with Spotify) .
TMV (or anyone else here),
Have you compared the sound quality of Spotify on your HAKAI to a home computer running the standard Spotify app?

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I can do those clips Ron.Does it have to be the Spotify app on the computer or can I use a browser.
I know that tune
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Lego wrote: 2021-04-05 21:17 Does it have to be the Spotify app on the computer or can I use a browser.
AFAIK, the app is superior to the browser.

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matthias wrote: 2021-04-06 02:43
Lego wrote: 2021-04-05 21:17 Does it have to be the Spotify app on the computer or can I use a browser.
AFAIK, the app is superior to the browser.

Matt
Curious what the setup would be to compare Hakai Spotify with Spotify app on a home computer... I assume you can use a USB output from the home computer into the Gigaport HD+ DAC, so that you're just changing the source?
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Volumio Spotify vs. Desktop Spotify

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Lego wrote: 2021-04-05 21:17
Ron The Mon wrote: 2021-03-04 14:46 TMV (or anyone else here),
Have you compared the sound quality of Spotify on your HAKAI to a home computer running the standard Spotify app?
I can do those clips Ron. Does it have to be the Spotify app on the computer or can I use a browser.
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Definitely the desktop app because it sounds much better than the browser app (I have tried Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Chrome, Explorer, and Edge.). I would generalize that the Spotify desktop app on a lesser computer sounds better than a browser app on a better sounding computer. My experience with building gaming computers, AV computers, and computer audio systems shows the greater importance of the software itself to improving the musicality; source-first.

What I'm trying to figure out is can Volumio-Spotify sound better than what Spotify themselves designed? How does Spotify Connect fit in with this? I have mentioned the Fidelify software on this Forum before. It could only be used on Microsoft OS/computers. It took Spotify "Core" and stripped it to the barebones just so it functioned. No social media, no display options, no digital volume controls, no pretty pictures, no recommendations, etc. It sounded fantastic. If I was Spotify, I would do like Fredrik Lejonklou did on his Sagatun preamps and have a switch for Super Premium Listening. Educate listeners that all the features hurt sound quality. During the times you just want to kick back and chill with really great tunes and the optimum musical connection, flip the switch.

All the software updates Spotify releases for their desktop app have a good balance of offering more useful features yet not reducing the good sound quality. In fact, I believe the sound quality of Spotify has improved in the past year.

I am curious as I haven't read any rave recommendations anywhere for Spotify on Volumio.

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tokenbrit wrote: 2021-04-06 17:16 Curious what the setup would be to compare Hakai Spotify with Spotify app on a home computer... I assume you can use a USB output from the home computer into the Gigaport HD+ DAC, so that you're just changing the source?
tokenbrit,
I have written on this forum of the superiority of Apple/Mac DAC/headphone outputs compared to a GIGAPORT HD+. I think dumbing down a Mac is a bad idea. Ideally, if one could take a HAKAI computer (with HD+) and install optimized Microsoft OS (with the Spotify desktop app), we would be comparing apples with apples, instead of Apples to HAKAIs. That is a lot of work for one to do, along with the cost of Microsoft software.

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Hi Ron can you explain to me the importance of the superior microsoft OS compared to my normal laptop, Windows 10? Would that bring it up to the Apple spec you like?

I too have found spotify OS app on laptop to be better than OS browser and separately spotify android app on Samsung 8. Streamer was Majik DS btw.
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Oops you're referring to the Fidelity software. Apologies.
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Re: Volumio Spotify vs. Desktop Spotify

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Ron The Mon wrote: 2021-04-07 00:44
Lego wrote: 2021-04-05 21:17
Ron The Mon wrote: 2021-03-04 14:46 TMV (or anyone else here),
Have you compared the sound quality of Spotify on your HAKAI to a home computer running the standard Spotify app?
I can do those clips Ron. Does it have to be the Spotify app on the computer or can I use a browser.
Lego,
Definitely the desktop app because it sounds much better than the browser app (I have tried Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Chrome, Explorer, and Edge.). I would generalize that the Spotify desktop app on a lesser computer sounds better than a browser app on a better sounding computer. My experience with building gaming computers, AV computers, and computer audio systems shows the greater importance of the software itself to improving the musicality; source-first.

What I'm trying to figure out is can Volumio-Spotify sound better than what Spotify themselves designed? How does Spotify Connect fit in with this? I have mentioned the Fidelify software on this Forum before. It could only be used on Microsoft OS/computers. It took Spotify "Core" and stripped it to the barebones just so it functioned. No social media, no display options, no digital volume controls, no pretty pictures, no recommendations, etc. It sounded fantastic. If I was Spotify, I would do like Fredrik Lejonklou did on his Sagatun preamps and have a switch for Super Premium Listening. Educate listeners that all the features hurt sound quality. During the times you just want to kick back and chill with really great tunes and the optimum musical connection, flip the switch.

All the software updates Spotify releases for their desktop app have a good balance of offering more useful features yet not reducing the good sound quality. In fact, I believe the sound quality of Spotify has improved in the past year.

I am curious as I haven't read any rave recommendations anywhere for Spotify on Volumio.

Ron The Mon
In comparison to what ,it sounds very good to me, musically.Sound wise it's ok ...but that could be my Tinkerboard S setup
I know that tune
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