I know this is a bit of a long shot, but is it possible that people who have heard the internal pre-amp (and not liked it) have been listening to a pre-amp section which has not been fully run in? I only thought about this last night, and if true, I could be in this category. When I've compared, the...

Brand new and unopened Klimax Renew DS/0 (2007 variant) with fully transferable Linn 5 year guarantee (May 2020).

£2450 inc delivery to UK mainland (exc. Highlands and Islands, NI etc)

Thanks Lejonklou and Charlie1. Thanks to all of the other contributors too - even the more "challenging" posters! All views have a value, and they're the ones which make me think the hardest! A special thanks also needs to go to Lejonklou for having the vision to set up the forum. I'm absolutely con...

I listen to "A" as many times is necessary. Sometimes, I don't need to listen to "A" at all - it depends on how familiar with the music I am (that is, "A" becomes "B" which is compared to an intuitive notion of pitch). If I'm not familiar with the music, or not in the zone (tired,tune-demming for to...

Define TuneDem Define Quality Define Fun Tough things to explain, yet most know them when experienced. A question if I may, the silent repetition - what is the time between hearing and repeating that is used? I am not a self proclaimed expert and still have much to learn. This is place where that c...

Sorry hcl, my English isn't so good - "Black Country" is my native language!

Are you saying that the cheapest Exakt system (The £17,500 Akurate EDS + Exakt Akudorik) is better than any other non-Exakt system (at any price), even if it includes a KDS as a source?

Don, Let me get this right: You don't understand the tune method or think it's crucial (let alone remotely important) in improving the enjoyment of your hi-fi. Yet you like SPACE. SPACE was designed using the tune method and is fostered in setup by tune method. It has been my experience that hi-fi ...

Don Please don't feel down hearted - I'd hate to think that your contribution to this forum is seen as anything less than respectful and curious. The fact that you haven't received a workable answer to your questions isn't your fault! From reading your posts, I'm absolutely convinced that you posses...

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I thought that if the message went to the Outbox (rather than the Sent Messages box), it hadn't been sent.

Got it now!

I've been trying to PM you, but my messages will not send. Would you mind trying to PM me?

Shielded is not necessarily better. So far all experience points towards the opposite. I'd go with the Microconnect. Interesting! Have you found an unshielded cable which you prefer to the Microconnect sstp ? Whilst thinking about ethernet cables (as one does!), I wondered if a very much longer tha...

Ozzy, what is the product ID for the cable? I'll get one and compare it against the current micro connect favourite.

Totally agree Charlie. I like the idea of describing an emotional connection with the music - this surely is the ultimate aim of our HiFi hobby. However, I've lost count of the number of times I've felt an emotional response, played air drums, sang and danced to what are really quite poor systems (w...

Like most people here I've also found 4.12.357 and 4.1.10 to be the best last two firmwares. 4.12.357 has performed so well, I must admit, I haven't looked for a replacement since it came out. I'm now on 4.25.1134, but only because I've recently changed from an ADS/1 to KDS/0 and wanted to try SPACE...

Good post Spannko! I've done listening tests with other people who use a different approach yet we both agree - I think the common factor is the need to use musically related criteria to judge the system. Yeah, there are many ways performing Tune Dem. We are all unique as humans. PS I use a 5th met...

Good to hear. I was concerned for a while! For me too, enhanced musical understanding has always been related to tune playing ability - the better the tune, the better the understanding. I'm glad we agree on this fundamental issue! Getting into semantics here, sorry but I need to clarify my stand o...

Good to hear. I was concerned for a while!

For me too, enhanced musical understanding has always been related to tune playing ability - the better the tune, the better the understanding.

I'm glad we agree on this fundamental issue!

"Clarity Vs Understanding"

So is it being suggested that the primary determinant of a good system has evolved from "tune" to "understanding"?

tokenbrit wrote:Does anyone have the 4.19.789 beta build for Klimax Renew that they could make available?

I'd appreciate a copy before exploring musical frontiers, or otherwise, of SPACE

I see what you did there! LOL :-)

I also preferred an earlier Davaar, finding it much more musical. However I find the combination of the latest Davaar and SPACE to be preferable.

I think if we use piano tuners as an example, there's no room for subjectivity. A piano's either in tune, or it isn't, regardless of who tuned it! TuneDem is no different - one system is more tuneful than another, or it isn't. However, if one person thinks their system is "better" than another, they...

I agree that one of the main benefits of using TuneDem is that it removes subjectivity . However, I can't agree with the idea that all of those who prefer SPACE/Exakt are being impressed by the clarity and feeling that this represents an improvement. I accept that this may be an explanation for some...

Try iTunes. It's free and sounds good. The only problem, that I can see, is getting artwork if you export straight to a NAS. iTunes doesn't do it natively, but there must be some software out there that'll do it. I'll see what I can find.

I've just been doing another SPACE on/SPACE off comparison, and I have to say, I'm very impressed with what I am hearing. I didn't make any adjustments other than just switch SPACE on and off. Because there are quite a few people who are still unsure about SPACE, I started with Linn's 24 bit Ingrid ...

I think it's, for me anyway, taken the musicality away from my equipment. Fred's gear being particularly good in that respect. It's a little bit odd that the majority of Linn owners saying it's made noticeable to large improvements but the few Lejonklou guys aren't so bowled over just yet. I see yo...