Wolfie wrote:I’ve not received anything about the development forum. I’ll go and sulk in the corner...

Mick

I got one.
I will do my best to pull a few strings, getting an invitation to you (and to others in same situation)

Ozzzy189 wrote:And is ML's opinion on the definition of musicality the same as say, Fredrik's or ThomasOK's?

Please ask them :)

anthony wrote:The lp12 has been a steady seller for over 40 years.
No forum for much of this period.
Do you believe sales will now drop?

How many customers are happy with the forum decision?
How many are disappointed?
Based on a few forums I visit it’s 0 vs 50+

Sure it’s going to affect sales!

u252agz wrote:One of the main advantages of SO is that my wife will never know that the room has been treated.

Good point! :)

PS
After building three houses, I finally got my own music room.

Good lord!

vicdiaz wrote:Is very sad that years of invaluable information that was collected in the Linn Forum are no longer available.

Agree
A huge lack of respect to loyal customers that spent hours posting.

I'm still intrigued and interested in the question posed by my good friend, donuk. Define musicality in the context we're talking about. I expect Fredrik to lead with this one but I know he's really busy. (will probably pop up now and make me look daft!) ok then... Musical understanding: Dylan play...

it was markedly more musical (wider soundstage, more engaging mids, less muddy bass) I say there is no correlation between the sound being more clear/less muddy and the reproduction being more musical. In fairness to Timster, I don’t think he’s saying his system is more musical because of the wider...

I would add that they don't have to be mutually exclusive, there's no reason why there can't be both. Even if you are basically correct, that is not the point. The point is...if the reproduction is musical - you don't care a BIT of the sound. So if you start thinking "wow this sound great" - that i...

I would add that they don't have to be mutually exclusive, there's no reason why there can't be both. Perhaps not but the key factor is that if you optimize your system based on clear sound, a 3D soundstage etc. you will over time not end up with the most musical system (tune-dem-wise). Strangely (...

I say there is no correlation between the sound being more clear/less muddy and the reproduction being more musical. I would add that they don't have to be mutually exclusive, there's no reason why there can't be both. Even if you are basically correct, that is not the point. The point is...if the ...

If it sounds better, it is better. ;) That is a quite misleading slogan, as it makes the customers listen for totally wrong qualities. It has to be put in a context, to be understood. Musicality is NOT about sound, clarity or "hearing the different instruments better". It's all about musical unders...

We can all agree that preserving the original is the intention, because reproduction is never perfect. But that's not preserving it is it? So you say "preserving the musical signal" is key, then which signal? That created in the recording studio? By each instrument? How it was recorded - or what co...

You can read what I wrote "2018-10-06 19:32" (last sentence)

Besides, furnitures and mats are normally fine, together with careful tuning of the system.

I'm sorry Music Lover, but you are either missing the point or not understanding it. If you're suggesting prevention is better than cure then of course no one can argue with that. In principle. But hey, it's not a perfect world, and no room is ever perfect. Compensating for room modes is the only a...

What I find surprising is the shape of the new filters. Less cut but much broader. Sound is impacted across a wider area of frequencies. No longer just a limited, precise cut at specific frequencies. Seems to be a very different thinking behind it. I would have expected the opposite actually... J. ...

Thanks Everyone I got the definite impression from Colin at the Linn help desk that whilst the KDS katalyst is definitely available and will be throughout October it is unlikely to remain so indefinitely and may be not beyond December this year. He did say that there would be a formal announcement ...

Apart from the commercial benefits to Linn from switching to KDSM only, it will also mean that in the future (Katalyst/2 and beyond) the best Linn streamer will mainly be used only by people who are signed up to the Linn philosophy of 'DVC is better than an analogue Preamp' and in many instances al...

Thanks Everyone I got the definite impression from Colin at the Linn help desk that whilst the KDS katalyst is definitely available and will be throughout October it is unlikely to remain so indefinitely and may be not beyond December this year. He did say that there would be a formal announcement ...

Thanks Everyone I got the definite impression from Colin at the Linn help desk that whilst the KDS katalyst is definitely available and will be throughout October it is unlikely to remain so indefinitely and may be not beyond December this year. He did say that there would be a formal announcement ...

ARMCOSMO wrote:

timster wrote:Linn hasn't abandoned Tune Dem at all. It's still very central to their SO ethos.

Yup, my Linn dealer still used it when he set up my system 2 years ago.

That's good, but I was talking about Linn not their dealers.

Spannko wrote:Except that you used “freedom of speech” and “it’s mandatory to use tune dem” in the same paragraph.

Sorry, I cant follow you, please explain.
You have many rules, everywhere. In different forums and in society. These have nothing to do with freedom of speech. It's separate items.

Spannko wrote:I think your post really highlights the difficulty in deciding how a forum should be run.

Not difficult, the forum owner set the rules.
Here it is "compare equipment based on TD".
And we are discussing competitors equipment quite a lot, and it seems ok to criticise Lejonklou products.

Linn hasn't abandoned Tune Dem at all. It's still very central to their SO ethos. Linn abandoned TD (they removed it from their home page and stoped lecturing the method) but reintroduced it on the home page a few years back. I've visited numerous demos held by Ivor (80's and forward) and he always...

I’d be quite happy if they dropped the Third Party section, there are other forums more suited. I don’t think it does Linn any favours and, in my opinion, attracts too many of the “my only piece of Linn is a pre-cirkus LP12 with no baseboard and I don’t understand Tunedem” variety. My take - censor...

Reading up on the art of recording orchestras, there’s been an ongoing debate about what’s trying to be achieved since about 1930. There are two schools of thought: 1. Bring the venue to the listener ie recreate the sound of the orchestra. 2. Take the listener to the venue ie recreate the emotional...