for me the second one sounded more forward and offensive - that made me also prefer the first one more Its good that there is also a feedback if none of the clips sound right because that might save one or the other to start a wrong path. for the power supplies: did you checked both Netgear and Fri...

That’s great. Thanks everyone.

Sorry, I do not like any of these clips. Slow “vibrato” clinging to the body of the sound from the first clip. Quicker vibrato “clinging” to the body of the sound from the second clip. Best heard listening to my ipad speakers. Don’t you just hate it when a sound offends your ears? I certainly do, a...

lejonklou wrote: ↑

2020-01-15 17:22

Long cable to switch, then 2.5 m cable to streamer (and 2.5 m cable to NAS) is the best way.

I just happened to do this test a couple of days ago and totally agree. It makes a bigger difference than you would imagine too!

So, it’s pretty much conclusive so far then: Just one GS108T with its own power supply, straight into the DS is the favourite setup when streaming from Qobuz. I’d agree with that, from what I’m hearing at home too. Just as a check, I did the test again but kept all the cables the same after the firs...

It’s great to see him looking totally contented with life sitting in the cathedral just about to make a recording. The Nait 1 in particular will always be considered a design classic, ensuring that he’ll never be forgotten.

Just as an aside, I haven’t done any vids, but I plugged another 108T into the ‘house hub’ 108 to “purify” the signal before it makes the journey to my listening room 108T. Totally against my expectation, it was worse. Maybe slightly tighter in the bass and a bit cleaner overall, but it was really l...

beck wrote: ↑

2020-01-13 19:36

I agree with tokenbrit’s description and will personally choose clip 1 in the end.

I think tokenbrit’s struggling to even agree with himself at the moment beck, but I’m sure we’ll all choose clip one in the end!

Sorry tokenbrit, only joking ;-)

Ladies and gentlemen, back by popular demand, and for your aural titillation, here’s the Friwo v the supplied Netgear power supplies. Enjoy! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jp8qsi3roix7ddv/AABc_trJWOvvnUA5Ld81A5OFa?dl=0 Hint: The Netgear ps is the first one, with the ps in front of the HiFi. PS We’re sti...

It looks like I need to get my FS108 in from the garage tomorrow!

Thanks for your thoughts chaps. I agree, the GS108T directly into the DS is the most enjoyable, which is in total contrast to what is being written on nearly every HiFi forum, where the consensus is that doubling up on Ethernet switches always produces an improvement. I also agree that the Melco do...

Thanks for your thoughts chaps. I agree, the GS108T directly into the DS is the most enjoyable, which is in total contrast to what is being written on nearly every HiFi forum, where the consensus is that doubling up on Ethernet switches always produces an improvement. I also agree that the Melco doe...

Here’s another “Ethernet Purifier” comparison. We’ve already determined that the GS108T is better than ‘no switch’ or the Cisco. This time we’re comparing the 108 on its own, the Melco on its own and the combination of the two. Enjoy! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c51nlky5z9felbf/AAADrd58wL3HAtPvSYNvGa...

Defender wrote: ↑

2020-01-06 21:59

did you use the Friwo with the right polarity at the plug which goes into the GS? I think the behavior you describe is when you used the plug in the wrong way

the => needs to meet the -

=> -

Thanks Defender. I swapped the polarity and now it works again.

Defender wrote: ↑

2020-01-06 21:45

yes I saw but was not sure if he wanted trick us and 2 is coming out as Cisco ;)

No tricks Defender! The members on this forum are too cute. I’d get found out in an instant!

Spannko, did you compare the ports on the GS108? Which did you use for in and which for out? Yeah, the GS108T is really excellent isn’t it! I thought initially that the GS108 might be as good, but when I swapped them again I realised that I was wrong. However, it’s still better than the Cisco. I’ve...

Defender wrote: ↑

2020-01-06 19:22

Did you ever listen to a Majik LP12 at your home in your system ;) ... you should.

I’m quite familiar with the LP12, but it must be about 10 years since I last had one at home.

Defender,

I’ll record the Melco on the same circuit and on a different circuit so you can have a listen for yourself.

All my Ethernet cables are either 2.5m long (bjc) or 3.0m long (Meicord). Is 1.2m signicant in some way?

Great story Defender! It’s amazing how long it takes us to get to where we want to go, even if the destination is just musical enjoyment, as beck suggests. Also, for some of us, we get there, then for some reason, we head off in another direction, which we often look back upon as a mistake! Did you ...

Here’s a comparison of two network switches used as “purifiers”. That is, there’s no ‘switching’ going on cos there’s only one Ethernet cable going in and one out. I’ve swapped my Netgear switches round, so we’re comparing a Netgear GS108Tv2 (with the stock Netgear wall wart smps) with a Cisco Catal...

Actually, your LAN sounds very similar, it’s just that I’ve got a second GS108 next to the HiFi too.

I’m finding it hard to find the time to make some videos, but when I do, you’ll be able to hear the effect of adding another GS108 next to the HiFi.

Yes, it’s crazy just how easily digital replay is affected by stuff. I’m currently using a GS108T as a home hub, into a GS108 in my HiFi room, into a Melco and then finally into the DS. The GS108 and Melco are both powered off a different power circuit to the HiFi (which has a dedicated radial circu...

@ Spannko: The Cisco is a bit picky about what mains cable you use. I found that a Linn mains cable was considerably better than the standard Cisco power cable. Which did you use? I used a generic cable. I’ve got a decent linn cable on a majik I use for the telly, so I’ll commandeer it later and do...

OK, I think I’m beginning to understand a little bit more about what’s going on now. All of the following thoughts are subject to change due to me having to use an unknown mains cable on the Melco. The “Ethernet purifier” on the Melco seems to be better than the Cisco, but not as good as a GS108. Th...

Thanks sunbeam. I’m hoping that by sharing our experiences we can come to some conclusions about just what’s happening and why people are getting different results. Like you I’ve been streaming music for a number of years and never found it engaging. It was ok for checking out new releases, but that...