Enjoy your dream job Fredrik. I quite like mine (overall) but it's no dream - you're a lucky man!!!

Thanks for sharing your experiences guys!

Sad that CD changed everything (for the worse in many ways) but hey, it's more convienient. I think my mate has a black pair of those MS100s he bought new back in the mid 80s. If not, they are very similar. He's only last month 'upgraded' to Keilidhs - £150 from down the road - jammy bugger - and th...

Reduced to £1,150 including upgraded bases + shipping or collect from Oxfordshire.

This is just about half the RRP for mint condition speakers with one owner and original packaging etc.

Cheers Briain - an interesting read. Time flies I guess. Must have been fun - they were certainly the days to work in a HiFi shop.

And thanks for the link Tony.

What would be your final thoughts on the Masterplug v Pro Elec, and could you choose between the two? Nothing has really changed since the Playground thread tbh. The Masterplug is more musically satisfying for me so that's the one I'm still using. I do like, and prefer, the sound of the Pro Elec, b...

The most important and telling comment regarding your setup Charlie1! :-) I played a bit of Rumours again this morning, specifically 'Dreams'. It's like I've been searching for something for a very long time and I didn't know what it was but here it is now playing in front of me. It's a strange mix...

Ha, Meant to say, the bass seems back to normal levels based on familiarity with the LP. Also, I keep thinking of the time I wanted to try the M140s with grills off and Fredrik said he expected it to be less musical, which it was - i.e. Linn had tuned them with the grills on. This makes me think of ...

I prefer clip 1, 19-24-23.

I can hear something that sounds like a tap gently running? It's in both clips. I kept thinking it was our tap :)

The music takes me back to my late 1970s Hi-Fi demoing days. Did you become a Zen master in undoing tiny screws at the same time by any chance? I'm getting bored of that already! You know the sound I'm getting now is reminiscent of my parents mid-70s Akai system that I grew up with. Maybe that has ...

12/160 for me: they offer far greater inner detail to the guitar and vocal, the latter also much more expressive than though the Nait. Also, I don't find the 12/160 plodding; for me, it offers a more natural sense of flow to the music (though I suspect they have more to give, given their servicing ...

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The sound is very crisp and clear on both clips, but the bass is somehow a little detached from the rest. As if too early. Am I the only one feeling that?

No, I felt the same. I was surprised how much of it there was too, only being familiar with the LP.

I prefer the first clip, 12.56.26. Just seems to flow better to me.

It not a big difference and yet it is a big difference when you think of the small change being made.

I wasn't sure at first but think I will get them serviced. The more I listen the more I notice slightly too much house Naim sound. I had the same problem with the red LED Nait until it was serviced. I wonder if the current Naim caps offer a slightly less in your face sound. It might loose some cohes...

Thanks Beck - do you find the 12/160 a bit ponderous at times?

I know the over verdict was in favour of the older rosewoods but I still find the Teaks are more fun and have more rhythm...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z20612wk7ojyb ... 6.MOV?dl=0

No worries - I don't expect you or anyone to like it even if I do. This will be interesting cos I've not compared them via clips myself yet. Nait: https://www.dropbox.com/s/621ktp3b48enm5w/IMG_7563.MOV?dl=0 12/160 (original cards): https://www.dropbox.com/s/wyr239euoun70qz/IMG_7558.MOV?dl=0 Here's s...

I could happily live with either of these options below but wonder what folks prefer... 1. 12S unit with refurbished 32.5 boards (higher revision numbers): https://www.dropbox.com/s/9zh7dnh8ap7gapi/IMG_7556.MOV?dl=0 2. 12S unit with refurbished 32.5 MM boards only - all other boards are unserviced (...

Both are musical, IMO, but sound quite different; I wonder how much of that is down to the age/service status of some of the items? I'm not sure if Naim is particularly popular in these parts, but I would certainly be interested in hearing more of these combos, once fully warmed up. Re. the .5 mods...

Just a thought, since I could relate to your comment about Naim: have you tried a Tundra in your system? To me, Fredrick's boxes are somewhere between Naim & Linn: less overtly warm than Linn; less tiringly relentless than Naim - more true to the input and to the music above all. If you still have ...

Thanks tokenbrit - I always appreciate your comments (and good humour). Not sure what it is but I enjoy the 12 more. I sometimes find the NAC 32.5 better for a bit but overall I'm just not enjoying the music as much. Didn't Guy Lamote create the .5 improvements? I seem to just like the JV-only stuff...

I don't think I could live with the 32.5. Maybe a 32 would be OK. Perhaps it doesn't come across so much in this clip but the 32.5 is veering too much towards that full on in your face relentless Naim sound that I don't like.

I think I'll get the 12S serviced at some point though.

160 arrived this morning. Not warm yet but couldn't resist a couple of clips... 1. Unserviced 12S / 160 serviced in 2003: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4k94083fbcnhs21/IMG_7553.MOV?dl=0 2. Just serviced 32.5 / 160 serviced in 2003: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b36paef8f0jyqix/IMG_7555.MOV?dl=0 I'll probabl...

Thanks Fredrik.

I ordered x2 of the Pro Elec but they are both the same. I think I'll call it a day on them now.

You're right Fredrik. I held them to daylight and there is very small embossed lettering on each lead.

And you're right again, the Pro Elec runs to the plug whereas the Masterplug runs to the system.

2 Gold Stars in the post!

That's correct - they are both plain white leads.

I enjoy music more with the Masterplug too although I prefer the sound of the Pro Elec which seems to soften the slightly analytical sound of the Majik-1.