Playground for practical listening exercises

[Charlie1]

Very nice!!!

[Charlie1]

‘02 LP12 / Nait 50 / K20 / Tukans: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7cxncpcs ... uqid83uo1y
‘02 LP12 / Slipsik 8 / Silvers / Giella Pi 1.2 / Silvers / Tundra Mono 2.2s / K400 / Tukans: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/f93prdwt ... ncuqn&dl=0

They are both too light on bass for my needs. The M109s were OK for bass and a nice match with Lejonklou electronics so I will try to source another (hopefully musical) pair, failing that I will try Katans.

No intention of using the Nait 50 in this room but just wanted to have a listen anyway.

[Spannko]

Great shootout charlie1! For the first 10 seconds or so I really liked the first combo, however as the track progressed, the second combo really started to perform and pull into the lead. The first combo sounds great, but in comparison to the second combo it seems a bit brash and loud, whereas the second combo seems to have great finesse, allowing the song to build. The chorus in the first combo feels flat and uninteresting, whereas the chorus in the second combo seems to lift the song with its tuneful melody.

[Tendaberry]

Great shootout charlie1! For the first 10 seconds or so I really liked the first combo, however as the track progressed, the second combo really started to perform and pull into the lead. The first combo sounds great, but in comparison to the second combo it seems a bit brash and loud, whereas the second combo seems to have great finesse, allowing the song to build. The chorus in the first combo feels flat and uninteresting, whereas the chorus in the second combo seems to lift the song with its tuneful melody.

I couldn't have said it better! I think the Nait clip was a bit louder.

[beck]

I agree. :-)

[matthias]

Great shootout charlie1! For the first 10 seconds or so I really liked the first combo, however as the track progressed, the second combo really started to perform and pull into the lead. The first combo sounds great, but in comparison to the second combo it seems a bit brash and loud, whereas the second combo seems to have great finesse, allowing the song to build. The chorus in the first combo feels flat and uninteresting, whereas the chorus in the second combo seems to lift the song with its tuneful melody.

I couldn't have said it better! I think the Nait clip was a bit louder.

+1

[lejonklou]

Very interesting comparison, thank you Charlie!

Now I’m waiting for someone to compare Boazu with Nait 50.

[Charlie1]

For the first 10 seconds or so I really liked the first combo, however as the track progressed, the second combo really started to perform and pull into the lead.

That's a good summary of my Lejonklou experience in general tbh, including comparisons against Linn, and why it took me a long time to understand what I was hearing. I think all-Lejonklou amplification helps though, or even better, Kalla as well. Perhaps one day there will be Lejonklou speakers too 😀 sorry Fredrik

[beck]

I listened again (downloading the clips) and I have changed my mind. I find the Nait50 setup more to my liking. So much so that I will try K20 speaker cables again.

Not trying to sway the consensus here. Just count me as the odd one out. :-)

[Charlie1]

I did try K400 on the Nait but it clearly diminished the Naim strengths without seeming to add much tunefulness.

Never liked A4/A5 so will stick with K20 for the Nait.

[V.A.MKD]

Changed my living room for testing purpose (wife not happy yet)
Harbeths are now positioned more from the walls, and it never sounded so enjoying
No more “too much bass”
Just an impression (recording sounds a bit hollow, but it really isn’t)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IFwuTE ... share_link

Great ...

[V.A.MKD]

‘02 LP12 / Nait 50 / K20 / Tukans: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7cxncpcs ... uqid83uo1y
‘02 LP12 / Slipsik 8 / Silvers / Giella Pi 1.2 / Silvers / Tundra Mono 2.2s / K400 / Tukans: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/f93prdwt ... ncuqn&dl=0

They are both too light on bass for my needs. The M109s were OK for bass and a nice match with Lejonklou electronics so I will try to source another (hopefully musical) pair, failing that I will try Katans.

No intention of using the Nait 50 in this room but just wanted to have a listen anyway.

Great sound Charlie1, especialy on second clip ... Vocal is great, have some kind of "peace" (the same "peace" as in a Sopper system) and emotions ... Just Great ...

[Charlie1]

Great sound Charlie1, especialy on second clip ... Vocal is great, have some kind of "peace" (the same "peace" as in a Sopper system) and emotions ... Just Great ...

Thanks!
I know exactly what you mean about the 'peace'.

[ThomasOK]

Changed my living room for testing purpose (wife not happy yet)
Harbeths are now positioned more from the walls, and it never sounded so enjoying
No more “too much bass”
Just an impression (recording sounds a bit hollow, but it really isn’t)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IFwuTE ... share_link

Definitely quite enjoyable.

[ThomasOK]

Great shootout charlie1! For the first 10 seconds or so I really liked the first combo, however as the track progressed, the second combo really started to perform and pull into the lead. The first combo sounds great, but in comparison to the second combo it seems a bit brash and loud, whereas the second combo seems to have great finesse, allowing the song to build. The chorus in the first combo feels flat and uninteresting, whereas the chorus in the second combo seems to lift the song with its tuneful melody.

I couldn't have said it better! I think the Nait clip was a bit louder.

Yep, clip 1 presents a number of powerful sounds but for me it never really gels and sometimes shouts. Clip 2 gives more expression to the different parts (vocals, guitar, strings, percussion) yet they all sound like they are playing together in a piece of music. Quite enjoyable.

[Charlie1]

Nait 50: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qio0xecv ... hbmkv&dl=0
12/160: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/exlal8um ... 9gvw4&dl=0

[tokenbrit]

Getting more musical integration from the separates; more separation from the integrated... 50 sounds (mighty) impressive but still not quite gelling, like Tom mentioned against the other clips/system - better in this system, but not better than the 12/160, for me.

[Charlie1]

Completely agree.

I think the more neutral P2 probably makes a better partner for the N50 in terms of balance.
P2: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/orivu46b ... a3kql&dl=0

The P3 50th Anniversary deck would make a nice companion.

[tokenbrit]

Gets the Keilidhs dancing :) Sets them free ;)

[beck]

Which do you prefer?

M) https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xkqugcu8 ... yctwv&dl=0

N) https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/t4mev55j ... jcfqj&dl=0

[tokenbrit]

Not N!

M is for Music - elements hold together, and support the rhythm & music. N is just not - it feels exaggerated and disjointed with no connection between voice and percussion, losing the music in the process.

I enjoyed M; felt like stopping N almost immediately - surprising, and not had a negative experience with your clips previously.

[anthony]

M for me also.

[matthias]

M

[tpetsch]

"M" for me too with the basically the same reasons as Token wrote out.

[lejonklou]

Which do you prefer?

M) https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xkqugcu8 ... yctwv&dl=0

N) https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/t4mev55j ... jcfqj&dl=0

I feel like tokenbrit. M is for Music. N is for Noise.